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Twitter? It’s Not Fun Anymore

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Re: Twitter? It’s Not Fun Anymore

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Post by sidawson »

itafroma wrote: post #12
shocks wrote: post #11

I dislike this new trend of linking to 'meme' like images within a blog post. It really detracts from the post and gives it a childish feel. I clicked those links expecting hard evidence about Twitter's bad API, instead I get irritating comics and stop signs. No thanks.

What gets me is that they aren't even re-hosted: they're hotlinks to other websites' imagery. Besides being incredibly lazy , leaching off of other people's bandwidth without giving them credit or placing the imagery in their original context by linking to the pages they appear on is just a low move.

[author here]

sigh

Yeah, you're both right. I'll move the images local. Not intending to leach. Just trying to lighten up an otherwise kinda depressing post. Seeing four years of work come crashing down.

As pg says, running a startup is like being repeatedly hit in the face.

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Post by sidawson »

FuzzyDunlop wrote: post #13

My faith in this post continually diminished as I clicked to links I thought contained relevant facts. Instead, they were just image macros. They could easily have been embedded direct, for what little value they offer. As it stands, it's just frustrating and really poor writing.

[author here]

The post was intended to be stand alone commentary Not a bulletproof thesis.

All I'm saying is my opinions etc after a long stressful week.

Ignore the links, they're just there to lighten the story.

Re: Twitter? It’s Not Fun Anymore

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Post by hcho »

itafroma wrote: post #12
shocks wrote: post #11

I dislike this new trend of linking to 'meme' like images within a blog post. It really detracts from the post and gives it a childish feel. I clicked those links expecting hard evidence about Twitter's bad API, instead I get irritating comics and stop signs. No thanks.

What gets me is that they aren't even re-hosted: they're hotlinks to other websites' imagery. Besides being incredibly lazy , leaching off of other people's bandwidth without giving them credit or placing the imagery in their original context by linking to the pages they appear on is just a low move.

Leeching bandwidth? Really? This is not 1999 anymore, no one cares if their images are hot linked anymore. Be ready to be surprised, people found ways of making money from hot linked images.

Re: Twitter? It’s Not Fun Anymore

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Post by kmfrk »

shocks wrote: post #11

I dislike this new trend of linking to 'meme' like images within a blog post. It really detracts from the post and gives it a childish feel. I clicked those links expecting hard evidence about Twitter's bad API, instead I get irritating comics and stop signs. No thanks.

The asshole aspect of deeplinking, I thought the atrociousness of incessant linking had been explained perfectly almost a decade ago: http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=banish

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Post by njl »

lancewiggs wrote: post #7

Once again I'm just sad to see the continued erosion from the awesomeness that was Twitter. Twitter are killing off the good and magnifying the bad, all in the pursuit of goals that seem to be forcing a continuous decrease in the quality of end user experiences. The dumbest thing about this is that monetizing Twitter is trivial, without changing anything else. Just put occassional and obvious ads in our streams, and…

I've never heard it stated quite so plainly, but that makes a lot of sense. I wonder if the billion dollars in funding demands more.

Re: Twitter? It’s Not Fun Anymore

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Post by protomyth »

itafroma wrote: post #20
webwielder wrote: post #14

Almost every single feature of Twitter (including its logo!) was created by third party devs or users. Not surprising that when the API is severely restricted, the fun stops.

This is misleading-to-false, particularly regarding the logo. The logo was created by Simon Oxley. It's misleading because while Oxley is a Twitter user, he didn't create it for Twitter: he created as stock imagery, and Twitter purchased the rights to use the image via iStockphoto: http://www.wired.com/business/2009/03/twitter-designe/ It gets into false territory because subsequent versions of the logo were develope…

buying doesn't equal creation, so webwielder would seem to be correct. Derived versions of the logo are new creations, see all the arguments or derived works and software licensing. Also, "original artwork" and "simply the Pico Alphabet font designed..." doesn't match either.

To go for functionality, the hashtag and retweet were developed by users not Twitter.

Re: Twitter? It’s Not Fun Anymore

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Post by GhotiFish »

sidawson wrote: post #22
FuzzyDunlop wrote: post #13

My faith in this post continually diminished as I clicked to links I thought contained relevant facts. Instead, they were just image macros. They could easily have been embedded direct, for what little value they offer. As it stands, it's just frustrating and really poor writing.

[author here] The post was intended to be stand alone commentary Not a bulletproof thesis. All I'm saying is my opinions etc after a long stressful week. Ignore the links, they're just there to lighten the story.

Ok, that's fine. You want to lighten the mood.

but personally, I recommend against fart jokes during a eulogy.

Re: Twitter? It’s Not Fun Anymore

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Post by itafroma »

protomyth wrote: post #27
itafroma wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is misleading-to-false, particularly regarding the logo. The logo was created by Simon Oxley. It's misleading because while Oxley is a Twitter user, he didn't create it for Twitter: he created as stock imagery, and Twitter purchased the rights to use the image via iStockphoto: http://www.wired.com/business/2009/03/twitter-designe/ It gets into false territory because subsequent versions of the logo were develope…

buying doesn't equal creation, so webwielder would seem to be correct. Derived versions of the logo are new creations, see all the arguments or derived works and software licensing. Also, "original artwork" and "simply the Pico Alphabet font designed..." doesn't match either. To go for functionality, the hashtag and retweet were developed by users not Twitter.

The sense I meant "original wordmark" (not artwork) was that it was the first wordmark, not that it was novel. It was not created by a Twitter user or dev: it's just the name "Twitter" in the Pico font, which predates Twitter by several years.

Moreover, it's misleading to claim the bird logo was created by third-party Twitter users (or devs): the fact that Simon Oxley has an account on Twitter played no part in the acquisition of the rights to use his work. They purchased the rights to use stock imagery.

That is to say, its association with Twitter is due to Twitter buying the rights to the image and using it in their branding, not due to Oxley's involvement in the Twitter community or his offering it up as a community take on Twitter branding (which he did not). It's not in the same category as borrowing from or being inspired by the Twitter community as was the case with hashtags and retweets.

The subsequent logos were created by internal Twitter designers or contractors. While I'm sure they are Twitter users, they are definitely not third party Twitter users and their usage of Twitter is incidental to their design work.

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