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Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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Re: Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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Whats your country? I thought that was scenario of only India.

I can say this happens with undergrads at UC Berkeley.

That's scary. Berkeley CS is one of the more selective programs in the US. Aren't the Intro to CS courses supposed to weed the fakers out?

Re: Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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Computer Science is a very interesting degree. Having done the program myself, you learn math you will never use* and ton of other things that can be counted as useless, however I am better for it. Calculus taught me less about how to do Calculus (I don't remember how to do an integral, but I don't get paid to do that), but it did teach me how to study properly and that grinding (hard work) really can solve some issu…

I don't get this at all. I need my understanding of calculus, trig, discrete mathematics, probability/stats and especially linear algebra. Then again I do computer vision, but even building web apps (that do something non-trivial) in my spare time I end up using that knowledge. Basically, build trivial stuff (simple UIs and a RoR backend?) and you probably don't need math. For anything else, you'll be stuck without i…

Being someone who cherishes the ability to do complex maths without a calculator, and having friends who rely on Wolfram, I think that the difference is that when you know the mathematics, you see the mathematics. What you see as a trivial problem that is simply a solution to a homogenous second order linear differential equation, your friend who doesn't know the mathematics sees as an entirely different problem. I'm not saying that you can get by indefinitely without mathematics, but that a lot of problems that have mathematically elegant solutions have other (probably less elegant) solutions, too.

Re: Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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post #22

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I can say this happens with undergrads at UC Berkeley.

That's scary. Berkeley CS is one of the more selective programs in the US. Aren't the Intro to CS courses supposed to weed the fakers out?

I think the weed out classes work in general. There are a few (very few) that get by with extra help from their peers though i.e. cheating.

Re: Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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I'm really starting to wonder if we're in a "developer bubble." Everyone wants to learn to code. Every other week there's a blog post on "why everyone should learn to code." Last year, NYC Mayor Bloomberg posted his new years resolution was to learn to code[0]. Soaring enrollments is just another sign. [0] https://twitter.com/Codecademy/status/155038379216609280

We're seeing the start again. It's happened before.

Talk to some of the old timers who were there for the early 1990s before the web. Eventually, businesses are going to have their must-do bespoke applications done, or there will be enough powerful packaged applications that do what all these bespoke apps are doing now.

And we'll again have a mass migration from tech, until the next great thing comes along.

I think of it as a series of gold rushes. The good news is I think we may have a good 40 years before the gravy train runs out.

Re: Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can say this happens with undergrads at UC Berkeley.

That's scary. Berkeley CS is one of the more selective programs in the US. Aren't the Intro to CS courses supposed to weed the fakers out?

It has nothing to do with fakers and everything to do with deadlines. When you have 3 large projects due each week and about a 100 pages of assigned reading it gets hard to find the time to dig around for details on trivial stuff that isn't working.

Re: Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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I suspect it'll be like the dotcom bubble: zillions of students signing up because they heard you can get rich this way (and by happy coincidence you don't need the high scores needed to get into law or medicine). Eventually there's a popping noise and such folk leave the industry for sunnier pastures. The rest of us go back to being wildly unpopular and bickering amongst ourselves about the finer points of ... well,…

hehehe, that sums it up :)

Re: Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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You might be true but I think people here don't really care about being "programmers". They are non-passionate idiots who just want a job that can feed a family of four. The so called IT revolution companies promise tons of jobs for these CS grads.

The problem with this attitude is that these same "idiots" also get called out when they follow their non-STEM passions in fields that don't have nearly the expected economic return that STEM fields so. Just watch any thread on college degrees/education. What is a person with no interest or aptitude in STEM fields to do?

I always thought it was a good idea to major in what you love and then minor or double major in something that can get you a leg up in the job hunt. So if psychology is your thing, and you're really serious about succeeding there, do a second major in, say, statistics. That should give you a nice advantage in doing and interpreting research, and if you decide that clinical psychology or whatever isn't really your thing, being able to do statistics is a pretty desirable skill. You might not get a big data job with it, but it's not a bad investment.

Re: Computer science enrollments soared 30% last year

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I suspect it'll be like the dotcom bubble: zillions of students signing up because they heard you can get rich this way (and by happy coincidence you don't need the high scores needed to get into law or medicine). Eventually there's a popping noise and such folk leave the industry for sunnier pastures. The rest of us go back to being wildly unpopular and bickering amongst ourselves about the finer points of ... well,…

Here's a question: Imagine this new bubble has just popped, 5 or 50 years from now. What do people looking to both learn something of substance and be highly compensated for it study? Biotech? Engineering? Materials science?
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