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Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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The dictator doesn't have to be multiple countries, but a dictator for at least a while. Would someone who was a dictator for a day but was otherwise a civil servant for 30 years be called a dictator? I wouldn't say so. You can say he was a dictator for a short time, but not just "a dictator" without that context.

Wouldn't it be correct to call him a dictator the day that he was a dictator? My point being is that as long as LV are engaged in what you say is "one act of trolling", then they can be called trolls.

> Wouldn't it be correct to call him a dictator the day that he was a dictator?

Dictators are a really poor example here, often it is not quite as clear-cut and there is no point in time you can say then he became a dictator. Not even in hindsight, it is usually a rise to power over years until their power becomes absolute.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Really glad I downloaded Flat UI yesterday before this crap started 'coz I'm gonna be using it for a project this weekend. Fortunately I only wanted the CSS. If an illustration was stolen (which seems unlikely, or at least it wasn't done with designmodo's knowledge), that won't affect me since I'm not using any of them.

Might you send me the sass files? I want to use it in a recent project too. s at zenhacks.org

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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And here's a reply from Allan: https://news.layervault.com/stories/1992-layervault-whats-up... Looks like the pitchforks are out over on HN. It was pretty straightforward. Our reaction was "Cool, a flat UI theme" to "Wait, this looks familiar" to "Wait, are those our illustrations?". I contacted the designmodo people over email, because that's the right way to handle this. The owner was being stubborn at first and re…

It's pretty obvious that these icons are not copies of the originals. They are very similar, but clearly independently produced. It's a bit tenuous to apply copyright law here. Copyright is for the act of copying information, not style.

Trademarks can legally protect a particular style, but trademark law isn't enforced through DMCA requests.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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For the lazy, here's a summary of the claims that LV/DN is making: Some icons appear to be heavily inspired by LV. Here are three icons (circled) from Flat-UI: http://i.imgur.com/xDDULcG.png You can see that the gears and news icons do bear some similarity to LV's versions: http://dribbble.com/shots/800428-LayerVault-icon-set-for-del... and http://imgur.com/rli5IVU (the latter via http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=…

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Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Actually under no circumstances whatsoever can copying an icon cross the line into actual theft. It's possible to cross the line into actual copyright infringement.

Yeah, if the icon in discussion is pixel for pixel identical to the "original", including the dithering and anti-aliasing, that would prove copying. But they have just similar concepts and colors. One black shoe might seem similar to another, but they don't infringe on copyright. One fashion creation from Zara might be quite similar to another one from a no-name, but if they slightly move one button or pocket, it's a…

I agree with this. I'm just pointing out that without even observing the icons in question I can assert that no theft occurred.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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That looks pretty much open and shut, as if using a vague DMCA in itself wasn't already enough of a hint. It's not even a rip-off. The basic pattern for the icons is insanely generic, and the execution is clearly different. The color scheme is a very common one. It bears a resemblance as much as one black leather shoe bears a resemblance to another black leather shoe. It's not even worth making a passing remark about…

Give me a break. One single misguided DMCA notice does not make one a copyright troll .

Maybe a troll in training? Or a garden variety of troll?
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