I saw the intro, then a blank deep blue screen. Nothing happened. Boring.
Flash vs HTML - Waste Invaders
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Re: Flash vs HTML - Waste Invaders
#32Flash version won't start for me, FF19 on Ubuntu with Flash 11,2,202,270.
Flash on linux is dead, The only updated standard implementation comes from Google Chrome (note: not Chromium)
Re: Flash vs HTML - Waste Invaders
#33I tried both on my Windows 7 laptop from work, which runs on a first-gen i5 and HD2000 graphics.
The HTML5 version runs smoothly, the Flash one is barely playable and has lots of visible tearing from the lack of VSync.
Re: Flash vs HTML - Waste Invaders
#34Flash - http://imgur.com/fj0AH2r
HTML5 - http://imgur.com/dLmHfbE
I'd say HTML wins with my browser configuration.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And why bother? If you have the choice, why not go with HTML5 which already has some good and very fast free implementations available? Well, I think this demo kind of proves why not: it doesn't work the same way on everyones browser. We've been talking for years now about html5 games obsoleting flash, but it doesn't seem to be coming together does it? My opinion on why not? We've got some serious problems with the…
> Well, I think this demo kind of proves why not: it doesn't work the same way on everyones browser. Still, you are comparing this to flash, which has only one complete implementation at all which is only available on a subset of platforms and not open source. This number of platforms is decreasing, not increasing (ie, Android dropped). > That doesn't really help you distribute your games safely over the web to multi…
> Still, you are comparing this to flash, which has only one complete implementation at all which is only available on a subset of platforms
Huh?
A flash swf or flash compiled app is available on _all_ platforms. We aren't talking Flash on the iPhone, this is Flash _compiled_ to native for the iPhone.
Haxe NME and Unity3D are similar in that they let you write once and deploy to many. They also in fact let you "deploy to flash". They do this because if you know your audience, you know you need to still support IE8 and while you get IE8 you also get IE7/6. Believe it or not businesses are locked into these horrible browsers. Going 100% HTML5 is cool and trendy but why would you elect to cut off a subset of your users (who you are trying to make $ off of)
Haxe and Adobe (not sure about Unity) are also allowing you to export to HTML5. This would be interesting if they compared performance with that.
We are all looking forward to HTML5 taking over, but we are far from that place right now.
Re: Flash vs HTML - Waste Invaders
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Well, I think this demo kind of proves why not: it doesn't work the same way on everyones browser. Still, you are comparing this to flash, which has only one complete implementation at all which is only available on a subset of platforms and not open source. This number of platforms is decreasing, not increasing (ie, Android dropped). > That doesn't really help you distribute your games safely over the web to multi…
> Still, you are comparing this to flash, which has only one complete implementation at all which is only available on a subset of platforms Huh? A flash swf or flash compiled app is available on _all_ platforms. We aren't talking Flash on the iPhone, this is Flash _compiled_ to native for the iPhone. Haxe NME and Unity3D are similar in that they let you write once and deploy to many. They also in fact let you "deplo…
> Haxe NME and Unity3D are similar in that they let you write once and deploy to many. They also in fact let you "deploy to flash".
I think you're distorting my argument a bit -- I wouldn't invest in developing new flash app or game, but if you can get flash support for free through "compile to flash" I don't see any reason for not supporting it as extra option.
Re: Flash vs HTML - Waste Invaders
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Well, I think this demo kind of proves why not: it doesn't work the same way on everyones browser. Still, you are comparing this to flash, which has only one complete implementation at all which is only available on a subset of platforms and not open source. This number of platforms is decreasing, not increasing (ie, Android dropped). > That doesn't really help you distribute your games safely over the web to multi…
> Still, you are comparing this to flash, which has only one complete implementation at all which is only available on a subset of platforms Huh? A flash swf or flash compiled app is available on _all_ platforms. We aren't talking Flash on the iPhone, this is Flash _compiled_ to native for the iPhone. Haxe NME and Unity3D are similar in that they let you write once and deploy to many. They also in fact let you "deplo…
If Super Hexagon is a good example, Flash compiled to native iOS is quite sluggish.
edit: It uses Stage3D, so maybe not a great example.
Re: Flash vs HTML - Waste Invaders
#38Your landing page and the game are both amazingly well designed and fun to interact with. Some of the best work I've seen.
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#39I'm not voting because you require me to "like" you on facebook. I wouldn't have a problem giving you a like if you weren't trying to manipulate me.
I know this is not a scientific poll but just a marketing effort disguised as one, and that's ok, but I would try to be less disingenuous about it.
Nice game, btw.
Re: Flash vs HTML - Waste Invaders
#40They could have also included some technical parameters like framerate, memory consumption or battery usage for the sake of comparison. Even if all browsers gain universal support for HTML5, we must remember that Flash can exist outside browsers. A lot of flash games are in circulation which are simply embedded inside Office documents. The actual Flash standalone runtime is only a few megabytes in size. Flash content…
someone can (in theory) develop a mobile friendly, efficient (and open source) runtime I don't think the format is documented to that level. And even if it is, it is very complex and hard to get right for other implementations (and it is a moving target controlled by one player, a bit like MS office formats). And why bother? If you have the choice, why not go with HTML5 which already has some good and very fast free…
Yes the SWF format has not been fully documented [1] by Adobe to make it easy to develop an implementation.
But so was the case with Office documents, but several open source projects can now successfully read and write them.
EDIT: It seems that the Flash Player EULA is a major roadblock. Once installed, you cannot perform any reverse engineering on it [2].
[1]: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf.html [2]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash#Adobe_Flash_Player_End-Us...