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Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by windexh8er »

I'm actually most unimpressed with the vendor selection. So now Linode has Cisco overhead in their premium tier of hardware. Not good from a costing perspective. The Cisco Nexus line is hardly next generation when it comes to R&S product.

Linode is in a position to seriously consider SDN and they shoot themselves in the foot with one of the most stagnant companies as it applies to new and innovative product for pushing packets. I'd have been far more impressed with Juniper in the hot seat here. At least they're more cost competitive. You can get a full non-blocking 10Gb L3 switch (480Gb backplane) for less than $20k fully loaded up with 10Gb SRs out of their EX line if you're looking to play it safe in 'standard' networking.

The good part about software is there's far less vendor bias. This just smells of a Cisco blowhard touting the wonders of a fully vendor locked network. And software people seem to be less informed of the reality that is how the current norm of the networking realm works.

Good luck to them. I've put in plenty of ASR and Nexus gear in the past few years. They'll need it.

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by dinkumthinkum »

pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

I don't think it's about fandom and nobody should be hostile but I think it is a fair point that it is a little sketchy to run a business off some of the offers from lowendbox.com. I think Linode is a very reasonable company to work with and host a Web app; they have a good offering with good I/O performance compared to other providers.

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by dinkumthinkum »

grey-area wrote: post #21
pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. There are more things in heaven and earth, pavs, than are dreamt of in your vps comparison tables. People choose slightly more expensive hosting because it is often less oversold, not maxed out (you're sharing resources with everyone else on your server after all), they have librar…

Honestly, I just trust Linode more than what I might find off of lowendbox.com. I'm happy to support them. For most of us running startups, are we all trying to compete with our competitors purely on who can race the bottom pricing?

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by verelo »

astrodust wrote: post #52
verelo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS support gets a lot better once you're an enterprise level user.

Define "lots better". Qualify with examples. My experiences with AWS have consistently been absolutely awful. Things akin to "We're sorry your instance has gone away for no apparent reason. Thank you for writing." This does not ever happen on Linode.

Your tone, demanding for examples is a bit off putting...

Direct contacts, very fast responses, phone support that picks up almost instantly and works with you for as long as it takes to resolve a problem.

I've been very pleased, and most of the time the issues have been our fault, yet they've always helped us resolve the issue.

I've used Linode too, no complaints at all, but you get a lot more power with the AWS tools, so there's really no choice for us.

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by [deleted] »

zaius wrote: post #67
gingerlime wrote: post #29

Linode is definitely one of the best VPS providers. They don't market it as 'fanatical', but their support is simply incredible. I like AWS too, but the lack of support (unless you pay loads) keeps me with Linode. Nextgen sounds cool. Extra bandwidth is great. I also hope they add more RAM and provide some kind of a storage pool to store images/snapshots/virtual-disks between different linodes (similar to cloudfiles…

Their support is quick, but they only solve the problem if it's easy. My linode IP ended up on an email block list because of someone else on the subnet. I was on vacation so I wanted a quick solution and I asked for an extra IP for a week. They wouldn't do for any amount of money. I had to set up an extra server and redirect connections instead.

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Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by [deleted] »

taligent wrote: post #103
astrodust wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Define "lots better". Qualify with examples. My experiences with AWS have consistently been absolutely awful. Things akin to "We're sorry your instance has gone away for no apparent reason. Thank you for writing." This does not ever happen on Linode.

No with Linode its: "Your instance may have been rooted. But we won't tell you what happened, whether it is fixed or whether it will happen again."

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Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by dangrossman »

windexh8er wrote: post #111

I'm actually most unimpressed with the vendor selection. So now Linode has Cisco overhead in their premium tier of hardware. Not good from a costing perspective. The Cisco Nexus line is hardly next generation when it comes to R&S product. Linode is in a position to seriously consider SDN and they shoot themselves in the foot with one of the most stagnant companies as it applies to new and innovative product for pushi…

Were they wrong when they said the Cisco product was the only one that could handle their routing requirements?

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by dangrossman »

giulianob wrote: post #92
shimon_e wrote: post #34

Find this interesting? OVH is already upgrading routers to 100gbps and 500gbps versions. http://www.infinera.com/j7/servlet/NewsItem?newsItemID=336

Their servers seem extremely cheap. Are you basically getting what you pay for with their service or do they have solid uptime and solid support?

The cheap 'servers' aren't servers -- they're desktop parts in a rack. Desktop hardware fails more often, and non-ECC RAM will experience multiple bit flips per year on average. That's fine for a dev/staging server, but not a good thing on a production server with paying customers.
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