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Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by grey-area »

pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of.

There are more things in heaven and earth, pavs, than are dreamt of in your vps comparison tables.

People choose slightly more expensive hosting because it is often less oversold, not maxed out (you're sharing resources with everyone else on your server after all), they have libraries, example stacks, backups and extra services, and the support is better. If you pay $5 a month, you'll get $5 a month of support (or the provider will go out of business). How much of your time would $5 a month pay for?

I've used both slicehost and Linode, and a few other hosting companies who promised the moon and failed to deliver. Currently a happy Linode customer and have more important things to worry about than saving insignificant sums of money per month on what is a critical service for a web company.

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by jcdavis »

spitfire wrote: post #7

Neat. But it's really the hardware size that's the restricting feature of linode. In particular: Memory.

Yea. I'm hoping as part of this nextgen upgrade they announce more RAM. SSDs would of course be nice too, but more RAM is what I want the most

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by taligent »

cheald wrote: post #12
pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

Support matters. When your neighbor is being DDOSed and you're offline as collateral damage, active support is the difference between happy customers and angry customer losses. For hobby boxes, yeah, sure, use whatever is the most cost-efficient.

Linode is great during stable periods but when there is an outage or DDOS they are completely absent. I was sick to death of waiting whilst my Fremont instances were down due to power issues and receiving no response from support tickets.

And based on their security incidents Linode is absolutely in the hobby box category as well. At least Amazon is PCI DSS compliant.

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by slig »

taligent wrote: post #16
slig wrote: post #6

That's great. If it was another provider doing this 10 fold increase, I'd suspect they would fuck up and wouldn't be able to deliver. Linode earned my trust and I can't recommend them enough.

Please. Major upgrades happen every single day among the various VPS providers. And whilst it is notable it isn't particularly useful to most Linode customers. In fact 99% won't see any difference at all. Had they actually decided to offer SSD based instances to compete with the likes of DigitalOcean then we would have something interesting. Also this is a terrible way for a company to earn trust. It should be earned…

My comment wasn't clear. Linode has earned my trust along the years (been a costumer since Jan/2009), via top notch support and quality hardware/network.

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by [deleted] »

pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

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Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by taligent »

walls wrote: post #15
pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

> If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. And then you go and try those services, and realize how poor performance and stability is. Having been through several providers, I have personally found nothing that compares.

Err. Linode has pretty average performance compared to the SSD providers.

And during my time as a customer Linode was the worst out of all the VPS I had ever tried up until that point. Constant outages at Fremont and heard about the same at London DC as well.

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by jaequery »

cheald wrote: post #12
pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

Support matters. When your neighbor is being DDOSed and you're offline as collateral damage, active support is the difference between happy customers and angry customer losses. For hobby boxes, yeah, sure, use whatever is the most cost-efficient.

Take a look at this, a new anti-DDoS proxy service provided by Litespeed. this type of service seems to be the future of how handling DDoS attacks. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5339500

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by jackowayed »

pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

If you're actually running a business off of a VPS, where the cost of downtime far outstrips the monthly bill, it's absolutely worth paying more.

I have a VPS I found on lowend box. $5/month for a 512MB OpenVZ. It's a pretty good deal, and it does what I need it to do; I have full control over it, I can give other people access to it, I can run any kind of website on it as long as I don't care too much about performance or uptime.

But there's no way I would run any service that was bringing in money on it. It basically has downtime every single month. Usually only for a few minutes at a time, and they tend to scrape by just barely exceeding 99.90%, but still. There also was one time when they emailed me saying there had been a power loss or some other reason that the rack my server was on went down, and I actually ended up having to go into the console to start my server back up and get everything working.

I've also found their support ... not particularly supportive.

Sure, Linode is 4x as expensive for the "same thing" (though to get Xen from my provider is only about 3x cheaper than Linode), but the amount of total money is negligible. $15/month. Maybe if I needed more resources it would be a difference of $100/month, but if I need a 4GB VPS for a service that's meant to make me money, that should still hopefully be trivial. For a service provider with much better uptime and support, that's a no-brainer.

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by gingerlime »

Linode is definitely one of the best VPS providers. They don't market it as 'fanatical', but their support is simply incredible. I like AWS too, but the lack of support (unless you pay loads) keeps me with Linode.

Nextgen sounds cool. Extra bandwidth is great. I also hope they add more RAM and provide some kind of a storage pool to store images/snapshots/virtual-disks between different linodes (similar to cloudfiles or EBS).

Re: Linode Nextgen: The Network

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Post by verelo »

machbio wrote: post #13
pavs wrote: post #10

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwi…

Things dont come cheap, they might be beaten at the price..but the comparison ends at that.. Enterprise Hardware at 20 Dollars does not come cheap, and with their support unlike AWS or anyone else.. they are every bit worth-full

AWS support gets a lot better once you're an enterprise level user.
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