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LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by meerita »

tptacek wrote: post #95
beseku wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'old DN icon' ... http://thenounproject.com/noun/newspaper/#icon-No6346

Huh? Not the same.

What he's claiming is not the perfect copy of the shape, but the style. It's a clear "copy" too, very very similar. In the end, if you change a pixel from that you can make a "not the same" icon, don't you think?

We can discuss on how many differences but it will end on nothing. I can express that, 2 o 3 differences are not enough to claim "different" and you can claim than 1 will not be enough too.

To me, they're clearly wrong. But if the guy copied the art and pasted it, that's another story.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by justjimmy »

tptacek wrote: post #115
justjimmy wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the point… 'He kinda copied it, so we slapped him with DMCA. We kinda copied a free icon, but it's okay.'

Did he "kinda" copy it, or is it a copy? The two icons we're comparing here are not copies . They are markedly dissimilar.

Well, LV said 'They even managed to kinda lift the old DN icon :)'

Don't know if 'kinda' is being used to soften the accusation or it's not a straight up copy - I can't see the icon they are talking about.

http://designmodo.github.com/Flat-UI/

Edit: Found them and slapped them together for side by side comparison http://imgur.com/rli5IVU

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by nicholassmith »

tptacek wrote: post #100
dzlobin wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This needs to be the top comment here, rather than people insinuating that LV called for a DMCA takedown because 'they look alike'

Bet on HN embarrassing itself every time on stories like this.

HN posters being reactionary to hot topics like DMCA when all the facts aren't out? Say it ain't so.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by [deleted] »

[deleted] wrote: post #128
beseku wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now I don't know what icon is in the Flat UI pack, but to cite the DMCA's icon as being 'kinda lifted' from theirs[1] when it is so similar to a number of CC-licenced icons on The Noun Project seems like a poor argument in my eyes. [1] http://imgur.com/3zoKuvH

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Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by ajanuary »

HeyImAlex wrote: post #98

I have the old pre-dmca Flat UI gitgub page from yesterday open in another window, and designmodo has apparently made a few changes since then. Just based on that, I'm going to guess that the problem was stemming from these. http://i.imgur.com/xDDULcG.png

I can find icons that kinda look a bit like those that were removed (http://dribbble.com/shots/875799-Designer-News, http://dribbble.com/shots/800428-LayerVault-icon-set-for-del...) but nothing that's a direct copy.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by mattwdelong »

Does anyone notice a striking similarity between the "Debian swirl" and the e in Designmodo?

It's obviously not a copy of it, but rather an "inspired version" of it. With that being said, it's definitely possible that designmodo didn't copy layervault, but rather was "inspired" by them. Not sure how that would stand up legally, but I would say that if I were designer, it would be "ethically annoying".

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by shiven »

dzlobin wrote: post #80
jgj wrote: post #67

The founder of LayerVault is claiming it was specific illustrations which were stolen https://twitter.com/Allan/status/309346292902014976 https://twitter.com/Allan/status/309350351054716929

This needs to be the top comment here, rather than people insinuating that LV called for a DMCA takedown because 'they look alike'

I don't see any specific comparison or illustrations in the two links jgj posted. Do you?

Those tweets sound like classic whining in face of collective pitchfork stabbing.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

#138

Post by integraton »

tptacek wrote: post #95
beseku wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 'old DN icon' ... http://thenounproject.com/noun/newspaper/#icon-No6346

Huh? Not the same.

Designer News icon: http://imgur.com/a/H3zlP

Noun Project: http://thenounproject.com/noun/newspaper/#icon-No6346

Flat-UI's newspaper icon: http://i.imgur.com/9TKbKNl.png

If anything, the Designer News icon is much more similar to the Noun Project's.

All of these icons are similar to innumerable newspaper icons, including several at the Noun Project alone.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by [deleted] »

tptacek wrote: post #104
beseku wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now I don't know what icon is in the Flat UI pack, but to cite the DMCA's icon as being 'kinda lifted' from theirs[1] when it is so similar to a number of CC-licenced icons on The Noun Project seems like a poor argument in my eyes. [1] http://imgur.com/3zoKuvH

If the Flat UI icon is as different from the Noun Project icon as DN's is, Alan at LayerVault will be equally wrong. They just aren't the same icon. The visual metaphor all these icons rely on is decades old. It's the details that matter.

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