They need to read up on W3's proposed contrast minimums: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG/#visual-audio-contrast-contrast
LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
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Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#112And here's a reply from Allan: https://news.layervault.com/stories/1992-layervault-whats-up... Looks like the pitchforks are out over on HN. It was pretty straightforward. Our reaction was "Cool, a flat UI theme" to "Wait, this looks familiar" to "Wait, are those our illustrations?". I contacted the designmodo people over email, because that's the right way to handle this. The owner was being stubborn at first and re…
A really good way to coerce the pitchforks back into their sheds is to provide proof, especially when your DMCA is vague and posted on a ridiculously public platform. Allan has done neither, and still hasn't done so in his tweets or this post over on his bubbly walled garden. A few simple side-by-side screenshots would have sufficed and put the court of public opinion squarely on his side. He may be completely in the…
Yes, a full explanation would be nice too.
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now I don't know what icon is in the Flat UI pack, but to cite the DMCA's icon as being 'kinda lifted' from theirs[1] when it is so similar to a number of CC-licenced icons on The Noun Project seems like a poor argument in my eyes. [1] http://imgur.com/3zoKuvH
If the Flat UI icon is as different from the Noun Project icon as DN's is, Alan at LayerVault will be equally wrong. They just aren't the same icon. The visual metaphor all these icons rely on is decades old. It's the details that matter.
My only point was that when you are getting hammered by people and the evidence you provide is that, it looks poorly thought out.
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#114Can someone please summarize for those of us not plugged in to the web UI framework (or whatever this is) community? I'm seeing entities like "LayerVault" and "Flat UI" and products (?) named "trend" that I've never heard of. Is this an abuse of process I should actually care about or is it just a "who did what?" spit between estranged developers?
This appears to be an abuse of process from LayerVault. They have a design in a style that's not quite originally theirs-- they've seemingly abused the DMCA to have github remove a completely unrelated UI kit in the same style. The two items in question are as follows: https://layervault.com/ http://designmodo.github.com/Flat-UI/ Flat UI has (seemingly) been designed and developed completely independently, having not…
Before we start yelling about "abuse of process" though, we might want to wait for more information about what's actually going on here. It would hardly be the first time one small company has used another company's assets without permission, so perhaps we should see what LayerVault has to say before getting so worked up.
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh? Not the same.
That's the point… 'He kinda copied it, so we slapped him with DMCA. We kinda copied a free icon, but it's okay.'
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#116Why don't we, as a community, collectively agree to boycott copyright trolls? (and teach them a lesson in the process) esp. when the target audience consists of developers/designers EDIT: I tried to cross-post this on Designer News, but it turns out they're invite-only. Can someone do me the honour?
Looking at the top comment in the thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5332398), it seems that DesignModo lifted some of their illustrations straight from the LayerVault site.
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#117And here's a reply from Allan: https://news.layervault.com/stories/1992-layervault-whats-up... Looks like the pitchforks are out over on HN. It was pretty straightforward. Our reaction was "Cool, a flat UI theme" to "Wait, this looks familiar" to "Wait, are those our illustrations?". I contacted the designmodo people over email, because that's the right way to handle this. The owner was being stubborn at first and re…
LayerVault needs to illustrate their case with clear-cut examples or else they are coming across as ye olde IP Troll and thus deserving the collective pitchfork stabbing that DMCA hammer wielding requires.
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the Flat UI icon is as different from the Noun Project icon as DN's is, Alan at LayerVault will be equally wrong. They just aren't the same icon. The visual metaphor all these icons rely on is decades old. It's the details that matter.
I think you are hitting the nail on the head - with styles/aesthetic arguments like this, when is it a copy? Adding a leaf of paper into the icon? Colouring it in? Adding a line of faux text below the faux image? Which came first? Which was the origin? My only point was that when you are getting hammered by people and the evidence you provide is that, it looks poorly thought out.
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh? Not the same.
Now I don't know what icon is in the Flat UI pack, but to cite the DMCA's icon as being 'kinda lifted' from theirs[1] when it is so similar to a number of CC-licenced icons on The Noun Project seems like a poor argument in my eyes. [1] http://imgur.com/3zoKuvH
Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI
#120Someone please lend LayerVault some contrast. http://i.imgur.com/jfSuxcK.png http://i.imgur.com/cMO4lxA.png http://i.imgur.com/JnaZdN7.png I cannot believe a "top notch" design house can get this so wrong. Edit: Designer News seems to suffer from the same affliction. https://news.layervault.com/ A lot of sites that are HN these days seem to lack contrast, what's up with that?