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LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by saiko-chriskun »

aviraldg wrote: post #76
saiko-chriskun wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, we need to create a new DN. LayerVault really has proven they are not the right entity to be running it.

I see no reason why hackers and designers can't mix :)

this works too :)

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by meerita »

aviraldg wrote: post #76
saiko-chriskun wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, we need to create a new DN. LayerVault really has proven they are not the right entity to be running it.

I see no reason why hackers and designers can't mix :)

^this.

They have proven to be an closed elitist circle and they go against the web openness nature of the web and development.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by ebbv »

Really glad I downloaded Flat UI yesterday before this crap started 'coz I'm gonna be using it for a project this weekend.

Fortunately I only wanted the CSS. If an illustration was stolen (which seems unlikely, or at least it wasn't done with designmodo's knowledge), that won't affect me since I'm not using any of them.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by mrmaddog »

And here's a reply from Allan: https://news.layervault.com/stories/1992-layervault-whats-up...

Looks like the pitchforks are out over on HN.

It was pretty straightforward. Our reaction was "Cool, a flat UI theme" to "Wait, this looks familiar" to "Wait, are those our illustrations?".

I contacted the designmodo people over email, because that's the right way to handle this. The owner was being stubborn at first and refused to admit wrongdoing. At that point, I submitted the DMCA request. Eventually, he removed the most blatant icons which (in my eyes) is an admission of guilt.

They even managed to kinda lift the old DN icon :) http://imgur.com/3zoKuvH

If you have some intimiate knowledge of LayerVault's UI (which their designer apparently does), the similarities are a bit more than striking. That's not a huge issue until you release everything together - the icons, the colors, the UI elements, whatever.

We give a lot of our stuff away for free. We put a lot of our projects on cosmos.layervault.com, we write about interesting concepts we've come up with and include the code on our blog, whatever. This isn't about thinking we own "Flat Design" or being mad that there's some other design out there with a similar aesthetic.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by FootballMuse »

shabble wrote: post #61
jeremyjh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure colors cannot be protected by copyright.

Whilst (afaik) unrelated to the DCMA claim at hand, it is possible to trademark a specific colour, with plenty of examples at [1], and there have been controversial suits over 'infringement' in the past. My recollection is that colour trademarks are much more restrictive in their coverage than other forms, although I may be wrong there. Edit: Emphasise the trademark-ability, not copyright-ability, of particular colou…

Trademark infringement and copyright infringement are different things. The DMCA only deals with copyright.

Plus, it is actually fairly difficult to trademark a color.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by elemeno »

aviraldg wrote: post #60

Why don't we, as a community, collectively agree to boycott copyright trolls? (and teach them a lesson in the process) esp. when the target audience consists of developers/designers EDIT: I tried to cross-post this on Designer News, but it turns out they're invite-only. Can someone do me the honour?

We might want to see if they're actually trolls first.

While I know it's pretty de rigueur on HN to assume that anyone who issues a DMCA takedown is evil/a troll/an idiot who doesn't understand the internet, it doesn't mean that some of them aren't being filed because their copyright is actually being violated.

Until there's more evidence either from LayerVault that DesignModo has used their assets, or from DesignModo that they haven't - something beyond DesignModo just shouting "they're lying!" in any case, perhaps it's best to withhold judgement for the time being.

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