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Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by rbanffy »

cooldeal wrote: post #8

>Once a virus got on your machine, that was pretty much it. And Microsoft wasn't doing much to stop the infestation. For a long time they didn't even see it as their problem. In retrospect, it was the computer equivalent of Three Mile Island or Chernobyl. They want to protect users with Secure Boot, and still they get a lot of crap for it. Remember Palladium? That would've stopped malware in its tracks. It was railed…

> They want to protect users with Secure Boot, and still they get a lot of crap for it.

No. That's only to make it difficult/impossible to boot anything that wasn't signed with a Microsoft key. It protects against one kind of rootkit and that's it.

> Apple implemented the Palladium spec pretty much to the letter.

Apple wasn't trying to force the PC industry to implement Palladium (or UEFI Secure Boot). If you buy Apple, you are buying Apple. When I buy Dell, I don't expect to be forced to also buy Microsoft (although I often am).

> Also, wasn't Miguel supposed to be Microsoft's shill or something for introducing Mono for Linux and pushing C# on Linux and Mac?

People change careers.

> Maybe he was just a technology lover all along!

Maybe I just don't agree with his taste for technologies.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by glasshead969 »

zura wrote: post #20

If I only could to quit mac apps with a single click...

Apple knows this has been a issue for users moving from windows. They chose to solve it in a different way though. OS X uses auto-terminate, killing apps which haven't been used in a while. I think the algorithm was too aggressive when lion released but I think they made it a bit saner in mountain lion.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by chc »

zura wrote: post #20

If I only could to quit mac apps with a single click...

Do you find that you quit apps so frequently that going through a one-level menu is a hardship? Because I don't know a lot of people who use their computers that way.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by meaty »

Wilya wrote: post #7

I'm always amused by these posts praising how everything just works on the Mac, and how it's so nice not having to worry about [annoying linux/windows stuff #351]. Am I really the only one blind to this effect ? I've used a mac. It's nice. But it "just works" only until you want to productively use Finder, or you want to connect to a Samba server, or you want to shuffle files with UTF-8 filenames around, or a dozen o…

Agreed. It doesn't just work. It works until you want an opinion, then it stabs you in the face repetitively.

My first encounter of this was the stupid filesystem abstraction iPhoto decided to enforce upon me. After removing iPhoto, it was bearable. This slowly cranked on until I ended up with basically OS-X as a window manager for a terminal emulator, browser, ViewNX and Apple Mail connected to GMail (which didn't work properly either and ended up just being done in a browser). As iWork was shit and corrupted documents left right and centre, I had to use Parallels with Windows Vista + Office 2007 as well. Granted I could have used Office for Mac but it was the 2004 version which was a POS that relied on Rosetta.

As for the iPhone, ugh that was hell. Nothing worked properly and each iOS release was literally scary. My pregnant wife actually begged me not to upgrade my iPhone in case it knackered the battery more and she got left without being able to communicate with me (I'm dead serious there). I actually bought a shit Nokia with a GiffGaff SIM in it to carry around in case the iPhone died.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by gknoy »

Wilya wrote: post #11
rrouse wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does A2DP stand for? I've likely never used the feature personally.

A2DP is bluetooth audio, in "headphones mode" (high quality). And yeah, I can attest making it work on OSX can be tricky.

I wonder why they called it "A2DP" rather than "AADP". Is there an A3DP or something?

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by ultimoo »

jug6ernaut wrote: post #16
Wilya wrote: post #7

I'm always amused by these posts praising how everything just works on the Mac, and how it's so nice not having to worry about [annoying linux/windows stuff #351]. Am I really the only one blind to this effect ? I've used a mac. It's nice. But it "just works" only until you want to productively use Finder, or you want to connect to a Samba server, or you want to shuffle files with UTF-8 filenames around, or a dozen o…

When developing on a mac the Finder is probably the single largest annoyance. I never thought i would ever miss Windows Explorer, but WOW is Finder bad! With that said PathFinder[1] is an awesome replacement for Finder. Expensive but worth every penny. Still not as clean as Windows Explorer, but it is night & day better then Finder. [1]: http://cocoatech.com/pathfinder/

Why do you say that Finder is an annoyance? I find it pretty great for sorting, searching or connecting over afp or smb. And while developing, I just use the Terminal with pushd/popd and dired.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by jug6ernaut »

rayiner wrote: post #23
Wilya wrote: post #7

I'm always amused by these posts praising how everything just works on the Mac, and how it's so nice not having to worry about [annoying linux/windows stuff #351]. Am I really the only one blind to this effect ? I've used a mac. It's nice. But it "just works" only until you want to productively use Finder, or you want to connect to a Samba server, or you want to shuffle files with UTF-8 filenames around, or a dozen o…

The people who are limited by Finder use Terminal... The people who can't use Terminal don't need more than Finder. Apple is great at hitting sweet-spots that way.

I really could not disagree with you more.

At any given time i have 3-4 iTerm2 windows open to which if someone closed i would freak and slap them silly. But just because i use the terminal does not mean i don't want a competent file browser.

Im not against there dumbed down version, but Finder as it stands simply isnt practical for a developer, and no i don't want to jump into a terminal to do basic tasks that developer would need to do every day.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by mikeevans »

nohuck13 wrote: post #26

I remember reading the Reddit AMA with Linus Torvalds where someone asked him what his home computer setup was and Linus said MacBook Air. Running Linux of course, but I thought that was interesting. Good hardware can make a huge difference in the experience whatever you are running. I sometimes think people don't give enough credit to Apple for the power of sweet homogenous hardware to make a whole OS/software ecosy…

Looks like he might be switching to the Pixel: https://plus.google.com/u/0/102150693225130002912/posts/dk1a...
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