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The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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If you are going to post online about a problem with an Apple product, I personally believe that it's a good idea to also file a bug (http://bugreporter.apple.com) and include a bug number in your post. Doubly so if you submit it to HN.

It is possible that there are people who work at Apple that read HN and if you post a bug number one of those people might then be able to open the bug.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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The 2012 15" rMBP had considerable bugs in the SMC and UEFI that took half a dozen firmware updates, several dozen OS X seeds, and the better part of a year to resolve. I had a particularly nasty bug where any time I unplugged my Mac from the charger, 5 seconds later it would go to sleep though it was still open and I was actively using it . You'd have to shut the lid and re-open it for it to wake again. I also had t…

I have a similar problem where when I open and unlock my MBP (late 2012 w/ 15" Retina).. 5 seconds later the screen goes black and its locked again. I can unlock again no problem, but its a bit annoying

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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i got my mbp 15 (ordered online) begin of february - it worked for 5 days then it was done.

i already noticed that i had big fan issues, and wondered about it, because co-worker has the same model and has no issues with the fans, and normally they only start when he is gaming, what is ok.

so i had some problems, but said "okey"... on day 5 i went afk from my mbp to play a round of fifa13, when i came back, i had a black screen and only saw my mouse courser, reboot showed flickering apple-logo, dir-icon, etc.

i tried everything to get my system back (after 5 days had not started with time machine) - no chance at all, the sdd was done...

my luck: in the next city we have an apple store, so i made an appointment for the next morning went there, they tested again the ssd, because i guess the normal case for them is: THE CUSTOMER IS STUPID, OTHERWISE HE WOULD NOT PAY THAT MUCH MONEY FOR THAT CRAPPY HARDWARE...

after the "genius guy" noticed that the ssd was crashed, he was like "ok i guess on the retina the ssd is not changeable anymore...let me talk to my boss what we can do for you, so that you get your mbp in 1-2 days, because its not ok then it will take 2 weeks on a 5 day old mbp until u get it back"

15 mins later he came back, and was like "ok it is possible to change the ssd, and we have one here..."

he changed it, reinstalled osx and i payed 0,00 - left the building...

since then i never heard anything back from my fans (only when i'm playing www.heroesofnewearth.com =D )

p.s.: it is my first mbp, and i really pissed already, all my co-workers have apple products too, and everybody is getting pissed and more pissed from day to day...apple hardware is getting crappy...

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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See my top-level comment. * Graphics issues are fixed in 10.8.3 (still in beta). It appears that the drivers have been rewritten from scratch, this was the worst beta seed series I can recall for any OS X release, ever, with new seeds days apart, seeds that were completely broken, kernel and graphics driver instabilities, etc. The latest seed is much improved and should address this issue. * LG panel ghosting: I had…

I guess I'll just have to sit tight for 10.8.3, and then when I have a lull in work go to an Apple store and try to get the panel swapped. Glad to hear they finally acknowledged the ghosting issue.

I had 2 screens replaced on this retina, this is both the best and worst apple laptop i've ever had.

Time to try the power stuff to see if I can stop the stupid power management bugs.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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I just spent 1 hour today at the Apple store and talking to Apple care getting my brand new (2 days old) 15 Retina MBP replaced. It kernel panicked on me and bricked itself. The only sign of life is a slight hum of a fan when I try to power it on. It's the first Apple product I've bought but I can't shake the feeling that this frequency of bad hardware is becoming normal.

> It's the first Apple product I've bought but I can't shake the feeling that this frequency of bad hardware is becoming normal. Probably because you haven't experienced the overheating G4 Cubes, the liquid cooling dripping G5 Pros, the frequently crapping out on the motherboards iBook G3, the wheezing MacBook Pros, and tons of similar stuff. There's even a saying that goes as far back as 2002: NEVER buy Apple 1gen p…

The irony is that I got my rMBP right after they came out, and it's been golden. It almost seems like the more recent ones have been worse?

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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Soooo... Apple hardware being rushed and having quality issues. What else is new exactly? This is probably what happens when you spend more money on lawsuits than research.

That's exactly what is new, though. A couple of years ago they had much higher quality computers (and the RAM wasn't glued in). Every time I see a post on here about Apple I mention this: I think they are pushing to get into the market of people that don't know how to use computers at the expense of their customers that do.

I used to buy Apple and recommend it. But they fucked up, they are increasingly trying to prevent developers from creating apps for their OS's without getting their approval first. Fuck that, that is anti-competitive and anti-freedom. I now recommend Android to people, but I am looking forward to Ubuntu phone (shopping lens and all :) ) and FirefoxOS as hopefully better alternatives.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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I have a 2012 model with the 256 hd - I just downloaded and played the song and no fans came on. Did have a dead pixel show up in my display but apple fixed that for free. Also it does get too hot for lap usage sometimes. Other than that this is the best computer I've ever used. Pretty much every other computer I've use now seems slow and pixelated.

Yeah - me too. 2012/256GB HD/16GB RAM. Easily the best computer I've ever owned. Must be lucky?

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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> It's the first Apple product I've bought but I can't shake the feeling that this frequency of bad hardware is becoming normal. Probably because you haven't experienced the overheating G4 Cubes, the liquid cooling dripping G5 Pros, the frequently crapping out on the motherboards iBook G3, the wheezing MacBook Pros, and tons of similar stuff. There's even a saying that goes as far back as 2002: NEVER buy Apple 1gen p…

> overheating G4 Cubes I'm not sure that anybody ever had that issue. Mine has been in constant use since it's purchase, and it's never once had overheating issues, even in 40c+ ambient temperatures. Even if it did, there's a dandy little slot in the bottom for adding a fan if you choose.

http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow/story/294758/10-gadgets-we-co...

> It had some major overheating issues that produced miniscule cracks in its porcelain body. Another major flaw was that it didn't have a fan, so users had to shutdown every so often and let the vent breathe. Apple stopped selling the Cube within a year of its release.

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