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The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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I was supposed to buy one this week. Now I'm scared...

You're scared that one model has a bug where you play a specific song in a specific media player, the fans spin more than they should? and it can be fixed with a firmware update? You scare easily.

I have been considering an upgrade, but have been more worried about getting an LG screen with awful ghosting.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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But have they fixed the problems with the previous generation? I have a couple issues with my 2012 retina MBP. These are all corroborated by others on Apple's support community: * LG panel ghosting * Graphical glitches in Safari * Audio clicks, pops and stutters when using Intel graphics * Power manager issues: Sometimes it'll drop to sleep when I unplug the magsafe, even though the laptop is in use. Sometimes it has…

See my top-level comment. * Graphics issues are fixed in 10.8.3 (still in beta). It appears that the drivers have been rewritten from scratch, this was the worst beta seed series I can recall for any OS X release, ever, with new seeds days apart, seeds that were completely broken, kernel and graphics driver instabilities, etc. The latest seed is much improved and should address this issue. * LG panel ghosting: I had…

I guess I'll just have to sit tight for 10.8.3, and then when I have a lull in work go to an Apple store and try to get the panel swapped. Glad to hear they finally acknowledged the ghosting issue.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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I have a 2012 model with the 256 hd - I just downloaded and played the song and no fans came on. Did have a dead pixel show up in my display but apple fixed that for free. Also it does get too hot for lap usage sometimes. Other than that this is the best computer I've ever used. Pretty much every other computer I've use now seems slow and pixelated.

Re: heat. My problem is that when the fans of my 2012 rMBP are whirring, the heat emanates from the keyboard which is.... odd. It's not something I'm used to, and irks me to no end.

That's more or less happened with every Macbook Pro I've used since 2009.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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You're scared that one model has a bug where you play a specific song in a specific media player, the fans spin more than they should? and it can be fixed with a firmware update? You scare easily.

I have been considering an upgrade, but have been more worried about getting an LG screen with awful ghosting.

I had an LG with really bad retention - I took it to an Apple store where the rep saw the issue. Two days later I picked it up and haven't had a problem since. It was very easy to get it replaced and is great for coding for me.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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I have a 2012 model with the 256 hd - I just downloaded and played the song and no fans came on. Did have a dead pixel show up in my display but apple fixed that for free. Also it does get too hot for lap usage sometimes. Other than that this is the best computer I've ever used. Pretty much every other computer I've use now seems slow and pixelated.

I am going to have to echo your sentiments. I too own the 2012 model and have experienced zero issues with mine [apart from the heat with intense CPU/GPU usage], and it is the best computer I have ever owned. I guess we're some of the lucky ones...

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been considering an upgrade, but have been more worried about getting an LG screen with awful ghosting.

I had an LG with really bad retention - I took it to an Apple store where the rep saw the issue. Two days later I picked it up and haven't had a problem since. It was very easy to get it replaced and is great for coding for me.

Thanks for the data point!

I have a 2009 mbp (matte screen! ;_;), and the retina seems like the best display to upgrade to from the matte for 'staring at text for hours'.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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The 2012 15" rMBP had considerable bugs in the SMC and UEFI that took half a dozen firmware updates, several dozen OS X seeds, and the better part of a year to resolve. I had a particularly nasty bug where any time I unplugged my Mac from the charger, 5 seconds later it would go to sleep though it was still open and I was actively using it . You'd have to shut the lid and re-open it for it to wake again. I also had t…

I haven't have ghosting issues in my 2012 15" retina, but it has the nasty habit of shutting itself down sometimes. Only good thing is it starts up fast enough.

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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I just spent 1 hour today at the Apple store and talking to Apple care getting my brand new (2 days old) 15 Retina MBP replaced. It kernel panicked on me and bricked itself. The only sign of life is a slight hum of a fan when I try to power it on. It's the first Apple product I've bought but I can't shake the feeling that this frequency of bad hardware is becoming normal.

The biggest problem by far isn't in the computer case. Its in the Apple store. The hardware's the same as ever, in the store however, "let me get that fixed for you" has become "that's not our problem".

Re: The early 2013 retina MBP 15” have faulty firmware/hardware

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This doesn't surprise me at all.

I've had so much Apple kit pack in on me it's unreal. It got to the point I dumped it all and switched to a 5 year old Lenovo unit which has been flawless.

While they look pretty, I'm not sure the engineering is sound or you're getting good value for money.

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