Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tone it down. This is a sober (heh) account of a young woman finding herself in a place she thought she'd never be, not a personal ad.
No, tone it up instead. From the comments on that article: My 3rd grade granddaughter has been put on adderall for ADD. This is really scary. It's because of people like her and her self-absorbed, nugatory account of her experiences being featured on a high-profile news journal that we drift into a world where mention of ADHD medicine usage gets you the eye-roll 'wow you druggie' judgement. She's doing a tremendous d…
Adderall Addiction: The Last All-Nighter
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#52How do people who've taken it for most of their adult life cope with adderall usage? I mean, how necessary of a drug does it seem to be -- or, to put it another way, how bad are the withdrawals, compared to antipsychotics, painkillers, etc? And if you've lived with adderall usage, do you chronically feel like you have a reduced appetite and all the other kinds of symptoms? I've heard that happens for people who take…
I've been taking methylphenidate (ritalin) since I was about 10 years old, though I've recently switched to Vyvanse. This is what I can say about my experience.
I took methylphenidate in two forms, a short acting tablet that lasted for a ~4 hours and a proprietary time release capsule called Concerta that lasted for ~9 hours. As a kid, for the first few years taking it there was a massive difference between me under it's effects and me without it. I totally remember feeling like I could focus on anything I wanted and completely block out everything else. Also, I remember my appetite being hugely affected, where I could ignore eating for quite a while and not really feel affected.
However, as time passed, I noticed two things:
1. The medication didn't affect me as much as it used to.
2. When off the medication, I wasn't as distracted.
In fact, by the time senior year rolled around, I could tell when I was under the effects of the medication, but not by a huge amount.
This August, after a recommendation from my doctor, I switched to Vyvanse instead of Concerta as my long-acting medication. For me, this has actually been very good. It's a much "gentler" effect than what I remember Concerta being like, in that I don't feel like the guy in "Limitless". I feel much more like my "normal" self but with my mind just slightly more organized. I feel like it's the right balance for me.
On the downsides: for me, it's totally impossible to sleep under the effect of any of the medications I've mentioned above. I can't sleep a wink. The author's description of "mind and heart racing" seems pretty accurate, though that only seems to be the case when I actually try to go to sleep. Also, now that I've switched to Vyvanse I am back to having less of an appetite than I used to. Not quite like when I first started on Concerta, but also not "normal."
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#53When it comes to the actual diagnosis of ADHD...that's where it gets interesting. Is everyone on an attention spectrum, and ADHD individuals are simply at one extreme? Or is there something completely different about these individuals that can be a single defining marker?
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#54There is a smart way to do this and not be a complete moron like the author. I take adderall a few times a year and have been doing so since my senior year (2003) in high school and have never come close to this trainwreck. It's a simple approach: know exactly what you have to do before taking it, eat a meal before (since you will have no appetite), take them in the early morning (so you can sleep by night), and fina…
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#55Has anyone tried Yoga and/or meditation for ADD? I think it might be helpful...I am distracted easily and often. However, I find breathing exercises help me focus.
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#56It's a schedule II narcotic with a high similar to cocaine. Keep your kids off of it.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few years ago, my doctor encouraged me to stop taking Adderall based on the conventional wisdom that it was likely to cause heart disease. I'll always remember what he said, I only prescribe Adderall for depression in my terminal cancer patients, because I'm not worried as much about their long-term heart health OK, Doc. Let's not refill that prescription, then. This conventional wisdom has recently been challenged…
Oh, the possible negatives I had in mind were brain-related: "diminishing returns" due to tolerance or other factors after long-term use, and adverse side-effects of the drug flooding your brain with seratonin and dopamine over long periods of time (obviously similar to that observed in long-term methamphetamine use).
Even with the fact that they are in the same family of drugs, comparisons to long-term meth abusers doesn't seem quite right.
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#58I've never met someone who was diagnosed with ADHD since their early years. It's always people like the one in this article. I have a few questions to ask people who have used amphetamines while exercising (cross training, cardio), having sex, meditating, or anything that raises your heart rate. How does it feel? Does it feel like running on an empty stomach on a Monday morning after having slept only 3 hours?
Methylphenidate (Ritalin) and the amphetamines do wonders for physical work. You feel fantastic and capable. Amphetamines in particular provide a bit of a euphoric boost. In general, amphetamines are going to make you feel pretty damn good, although coming down might be unpleasant sometimes. I have to caution people to not do exert themselves, as they figure out that they can go workout at the gym like mad. I'm not s…
I gave Adderral a shot, but again it is quite an unstable drug. Mostly because of it's a Dopamine Uptake Inhibitor. And that usually causes unstable Dopamine levels, meaning less stable mood and thinking.
I fortunately found a Doctor that prescribed new age of ADHD medication. Although it is not for the weary. Atomoxetine(Strattera) is much more stable, and much more powerful drug. It doesn't have tolerance issues like typical drugs. It is a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, meaning it enhances the neurotransmitter that's a precursor to all other neurotransmitters including Dopamine. This means all your neurotransmitters become enhanced.
Now I say it's a drug not for weary minded, because it's actually very hard to adjust to it. For the first month you have to take 20mg increments every week to get your body to adjust to it. At first it makes your incredibly sleepy(can't even stay awake at any time), but that quickly fades and your realize that sleep is much easier to schedule when you can get the brain to feel sleepy(Needed for someone with ADHD).
It also is tough on your liver, unless you eat a decent sized meal you will most definitely vomit bile from your Liver(I know I have seen it enough). It gives your incredible nausea and will eliminate your appetite to the point where it hurts to eat.
I have found that combining it with Marijuanna to be advantageous. Both drugs complement each other(one to counteract nausea and trigger hunger, the other to enhance the high you get.
It's one of those drugs that doesn't make your ADHD disappear, but let you take control of it. But it really is miles ahead of anything, and has changed my life completely. I have been using it for a year, and the flood gates are off. Unfortunately I still struggle with a lot of things, but now I have the ability to correct those learning weakness because I can concentrate.
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#59This made me sick. I don't know what's worst: the author's self-absorption, the victimization tone, or the fact that her colleagues had to do similar unhealthy shit in order to compete with her. It stinks the whole way. Using drugs to gain an unfair advantage over other people at work has unhealthy emotional side effects? Am I to be surprised by this?
"Using drugs to gain an unfair advantage over other people at work" Perhaps the ABA (American Bar Association) needs to implement a ban on performance enhancing drugs similar to what MLB (Major League Baseball) mandates?
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#60In fact, once we have monitoring in place, you might even argue "intelligence doping" could provide such benefits to society that we should even encourage it (though only for those who face minimal side effects):
http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/2008/03/intelligence-dopin...