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The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

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Re: The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

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Dude, this was a (really well executed) joke! It should be our responsibility to help keep this shit going.

Yes, let's make internet freedom a joke. But we already have anonymous for that. Edit: The real tragedy is the people excusing NK so they can have their way. I'm not saying they are dumb, just unlucky at thinking. Edit2: No defense of hackivists making a mockery of themselves? How much does TPB make?

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Re: The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

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Now it seems they have also added fake lag to TCP port 80. hlds@machine:~$ tcptraceroute -f 128 -m 128 thepiratebay.se 80 Selected device venet0, address 5.9.249.8, port 41774 for outgoing packets Tracing the path to thepiratebay.se (194.71.107.15) on TCP port 80 (www), 128 hops max 128 thepiratebay.org (194.71.107.15) [open] 751.198 ms 735.700 ms 767.937 ms This wasn't the case an hour ago. I was able to get 50ms RT…

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Re: The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

#25
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WHOIS tells you where an IP is supposed to be located, but BGP determines where the IP is actually located. They don't have to agree and both can be hacked/spoofed.

Hmm, isn't the Korean subnet allocation fixed? If an IP falls in that range, doesn't it belong to the Korean ISP? How can someone be assigned that IP by someone other than the ISP who owns it?

It is, but apparently the upstream provider doesn't filter the ICMP reply packets (with SRC IP of the Korean ISP), which are sent by thepiratebay servers.

Re: The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

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This is the reason why I read HN and not some regular news media. Here you can't write bullshit, there will be a repost within a short amount of time, describing what really happened.

The LA Times quoted a post from Hacker News: http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-pirate-b...

Re: The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

#27
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WHOIS tells you where an IP is supposed to be located, but BGP determines where the IP is actually located. They don't have to agree and both can be hacked/spoofed.

Hmm, isn't the Korean subnet allocation fixed? If an IP falls in that range, doesn't it belong to the Korean ISP? How can someone be assigned that IP by someone other than the ISP who owns it?

BGP has almost no security. Anyone can hijack any IP address, especially if you can find an unused /24 so that the owner isn't inconvenienced.

Re: The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

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One thing a lot of people don't realize is that a good deal of how the internet routes traffic is simply determined by trust. Yes there are complicated legal agreements between AS's but when ti comes down to it any AS can advertise any route they want. Most edge routes are configured to simply trust routes as they come in. If they didn't we wouldn't have such a redundant infrastructure.

Re: The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

#29

This is the reason why I read HN and not some regular news media. Here you can't write bullshit, there will be a repost within a short amount of time, describing what really happened.

The LA Times quoted a post from Hacker News: http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-pirate-b...

I considered editing my topmost comment to say something along the lines: "Edit: warning, this is not entirely true, read the posts below".

Now I'm just going to tell my mum I'm in the LA Times.

Re: The Pirate Bay – North Korean hosting? No, it’s fake

#30
post #2

It's fake but his analysis is wrong. TPB is still somewhere in Europe. Otherwise you couldn't have 50ms RTT to thepiratebay.se TCP port 80 from within Europe. I explained here how they do it http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5319720

From the discussion there it looks like the real host is rrbone UG (haftungsbeschraenkt) Leibnizstr. 8a 44147 Dortmund GERMANY https://www.rrbone.net/

For someone that grew up around Dortmund, that went to Dortmund for parties and fun for a dozen years that would make me rather happy.. :)
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