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Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by doktrin »

saraid216 wrote: post #185
doktrin wrote: post #114

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I don't believe for one second that North Korea was their only possible option for survival . If anything, getting set up in NK probably took significantly more work and planning than any number of more conventional routes (eastern europe et. al). If this is in fact true, and not a gag, it's an overt political statement, and one I couldn't disagree with more.

They moved to Norway and Spain, and were forced out of Norway as well. I haven't heard about Spain yet.

You have to admit, jumping from Norway to North Korea is skipping a few hundred steps.

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Post by guelo »

freyr wrote: post #139

I expected more from HN than this knee-jerk support for TPB due to its self-promulgated association with "freedom of information." Freedom of information, in the specific context of The Pirate Bay, means denying content authors the freedom to choose channels of distribution for their work. It means repackaging content, giving it away "for free," while raking in advertising revenue. It means diverting money away from…

The piratebay does not host content. It is a directory, it is pure speech. "Congress shall make no law..."

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Post by Nursie »

raverbashing wrote: post #128
Nursie wrote: post #89

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"Everybody has the right to leave the US" Like all generalisations (even this one) that is completely incorrect. I believe there are a lot of people in US custody who are denied that right? I'm not saying they shouldn't be where they are, or that they should have the right to leave, but your blanket statement is wrong. Also see Dmitry Sklyarov for an example of when stepping on the wrong corporate toes can get you in…

"I believe there are a lot of people in US custody who are denied that right?" Like in every other country? This is pretty much a given, so I generalized within obvious constraints. "Also see Dmitry Sklyarov" Yes, that's very bad

So everyone can leave except the people we say can't leave?

I know, and I know that it's (societally speaking) a necessary tool. But many see the rate of incarceration in the US as a massive problem itself.

Note that I in no way compare the DPRK with the USA, I just think that talking in absolutes or framing them as opposites doesn't really help. We got a lot of problems in the west too...

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Post by viraptor »

ceph_ wrote: post #146
viraptor wrote: post #116

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It could be bad labelling too. I'm not sure about the details of how it happened, but I used an ISP in UK who was assigning ranges officially located in Italy. (BTW: that really broke google for a long time. google will revert your language to the automatically discovered one, even after you use their magic url that should prevent this)

You're confusing how internet routing with how some internet services assign geographical locations to ip address (GeoIP). The path your traffic takes through the internet has nothing to do with geoip.

No, I meant both. I got an IP which was identified as belonging to an Italian ISP by ripe. On top of that geoip results were obviously wrong/right depending on how you look at it.

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Post by burntsushi »

freyr wrote: post #79
picklefish wrote: post #8

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PRESS RELEASE, NEW PROVIDER FOR TPB FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, 3 MARCH 102, 평양 (PYONGYANG). The Pirate Bay has been hunted in many countries around the world. Not for illegal activities but being persecuted for beliefs of freedom of information. Today, a new chapter is written in the history of the movement, as well as the history of the internets. A week ago we could reveal that The Pirate Bay was accessed via Norway an…

"...being persecuted for beliefs of freedom of information." Seriously? The Pirate Bay's "freedom of information" posturing is a complete farce. The site exists for the sole purpose of making money for its operators. Messages like this one, whether satire or not, expose the site for what it is. It makes money by ripping content from the distribution channels chosen by the content authors, repackaging it, and giving i…

> In the process, they deny content authors the freedom to select channel of distribution that will allow them to be compensated for their work.

Pre-supposing one supports intellectual property.

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Post by Kerrick »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #186
pflats wrote: post #172

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No. It's their content; they make the rules. It's the industry's job to use whatever distribution channels make them and their clients the most money. That's it. If you don't like it, you don't have to buy their content, but it doesn't give you the right to bootleg it. If a content maker doesn't like it, they don't have to use a big publishing house that restricts their sales avenues, but they also know they're proba…

(Shrug) They can make rules, or they can make money. Their call.

You can boycott them if you disagree with them, but you can't just boycott them while still enjoying their content via piracy. It's not morally sound.

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Post by mikeash »

breck wrote: post #200
mikeash wrote: post #180

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If North Korea has a lot of good going for it, I'm sure you can give us a few examples.

For sure. (And if you're curious there are some great sources online including one interesting account recently was Eric Schmidt's daughter's blog.) - Millions of people who have families and I'm sure are pretty happy even if their government sucks. And this is all that really matters at the end of the day. - Those wide streets look pretty darn cool - People look healthy (compared to obesity in the U.S.) - Those mass…

I honestly cannot tell if this is satire or if you think these are actually legitimate points.

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Post by at_joanojr »

freyr wrote: post #139

I expected more from HN than this knee-jerk support for TPB due to its self-promulgated association with "freedom of information." Freedom of information, in the specific context of The Pirate Bay, means denying content authors the freedom to choose channels of distribution for their work. It means repackaging content, giving it away "for free," while raking in advertising revenue. It means diverting money away from…

Sounds like reupp.org might be of service..
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