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Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by mich41 »

freyr wrote: post #139

I expected more from HN than this knee-jerk support for TPB due to its self-promulgated association with "freedom of information." Freedom of information, in the specific context of The Pirate Bay, means denying content authors the freedom to choose channels of distribution for their work. It means repackaging content, giving it away "for free," while raking in advertising revenue. It means diverting money away from…

Why should authors and not "consumers" (man, how I hate this word) choose distribution channels?

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by arthulia »

burntsushi wrote: post #92
arthulia wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I'm happy to turn this into a discussion. North Korea has it worse. There is no way in hell, you are going to convince me that the US is a bigger domestic human rights violator.

> There is no way in hell, you are going to convince me that the US is a bigger domestic human rights violator. Good, because the grand-parent wasn't trying to.

Ah, I apologize. It seemed like the poster was making a comparison between the US and NK when he said that the US could no longer credibly criticize NK for human rights violations, and that "both have abused [...] human rights in abysmal ways".

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by benwerd »

Absolutely uncool. No matter what you think about current IP law - and let's face it, it's a bag of worms - getting into bed with North Korea is inexcusable. On top of everything else, and here "everything" means institutional murder and oppression, it kind of suggests a lack of morality on TPB's part.

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by corresation »

pdeuchler wrote: post #129
corresation wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So North Korea will now have access to the entire Western World's culture catalog? Understand the difference between the torrent file and the actual data and all shall be revealed.

Does having access to the torrent file not give you access to the actual data?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrent_file

I suppose it gives access in the same way that North Korea visiting Pirate Bay gave them access before. There is a widespread belief that Pirate Bay is some giant repository of a bunch of pirate content, and it simply isn't true. Well, it's true that it's content that aids pirates in finding and downloading that content, but pirate bay itself is quite lightweight.

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by edwardunknown »

freyr wrote: post #139

I expected more from HN than this knee-jerk support for TPB due to its self-promulgated association with "freedom of information." Freedom of information, in the specific context of The Pirate Bay, means denying content authors the freedom to choose channels of distribution for their work. It means repackaging content, giving it away "for free," while raking in advertising revenue. It means diverting money away from…

I use it everyday but I can admit they're professional thieves who now appear to be under the protection of possibly the most brutal dictatorships on earth. The only reason they're still around is because everybody uses it and that makes it politically difficult to come down hard on them. This probably makes it significantly easier to bring the full force of the US government into play.

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by [deleted] »

fleitz wrote: post #121
powertower wrote: post #102

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If you think you can legitimately compare the living conditions, political environment, and human suffering in North Korea that with the USA, you might have also brainwashed yourself (it happens when you take everything you have for granted). In NK you'd be lucky to get 1 meal a day. Over here poor people are morbidly fat. And at the end of the day, you're not a prisoner, if you hate it here so much, you can leave th…

How is it that you think I was talking about a country other than NK? Is there a country other than NK with such a piss poor human rights record? Generally when someone murders one person we regard them as a horrid individual we don't say their not that bad because they only killed 1 instead of 10 like that Ted Bundy guy. I didn't say I was living in a police state, the country I live in hasn't executed anyone in 40…

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Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by jes5199 »

pdeuchler wrote: post #129
corresation wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So North Korea will now have access to the entire Western World's culture catalog? Understand the difference between the torrent file and the actual data and all shall be revealed.

Does having access to the torrent file not give you access to the actual data?

well, you have to be able to connect to peers who have the actual content to share with you.

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by [deleted] »

darkchasma wrote: post #140
fleitz wrote: post #80

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Yes, definitely, we should not stand by while companies host their content in countries known to use torture to extract information, hold prisoners with out trial, hold prisoners with out charge, allow their leaders to execute citizens summarily, execute minors and the mentally retarded, incarcerate people at a rate higher than any other country on earth merely in order to serve as slave labour for the state and stat…

I'm honestly confused, are you talking about the United States of America or North Korea. With the exception of the execution of minors, it describes the USA fairly accurately.

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Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by JeremyBanks »

pdeuchler wrote: post #129
corresation wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So North Korea will now have access to the entire Western World's culture catalog? Understand the difference between the torrent file and the actual data and all shall be revealed.

Does having access to the torrent file not give you access to the actual data?

It only gives you access to the data if you can connect to peers that have that data. If North Koreans users do not have access to the international Internet, then they'll only be able to download from peers inside of North Korea, who presumably won't have the data. If the users do have access to the general internet, then they can use any tracker, and The Pirate Bay isn't in a special position.
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