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Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by tuomasb »

Wilya wrote: post #37

So. A traceroute to thepiratebay.se is kind of amusing. From my home (Sweden), the packets seem to go to Frankfurt, then New York, take a link via an ip which reverses to intelsatone.net to a cambodgian ip (500ms latency right here), then reach the ip 175.45.177.217, assigned to Star Joint Venture Co Ltd. Who seem to be a legitimate North Korea internet provider (or, well, as legitimate as it gets, coming from North…

First type traceroute thepiratebay.se Then tcptraceroute -f 128 -m 128 thepiratebay.se http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5319720 for explanation how they did it.

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by powertower »

fleitz wrote: post #80
binarymax wrote: post #38

This makes me upset. Its upsetting because while yes, information freedom is a very important topic and needs to happen, but it does not trump human freedom. I'm not sure if this is a straw man or not - but how can they justify working with an entity that has such a horrid human rights record?

Yes, definitely, we should not stand by while companies host their content in countries known to use torture to extract information, hold prisoners with out trial, hold prisoners with out charge, allow their leaders to execute citizens summarily, execute minors and the mentally retarded, incarcerate people at a rate higher than any other country on earth merely in order to serve as slave labour for the state and stat…

If you think you can legitimately compare the living conditions, political environment, and human suffering in North Korea that with the USA, you might have also brainwashed yourself (it happens when you take everything you have for granted).

In NK you'd be lucky to get 1 meal a day. Over here poor people are morbidly fat.

And at the end of the day, you're not a prisoner, if you hate it here so much, you can leave this country any day you want to. But can't say the same for people in NK.

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by runn1ng »

willscott wrote: post #78
Wilya wrote: post #37

So. A traceroute to thepiratebay.se is kind of amusing. From my home (Sweden), the packets seem to go to Frankfurt, then New York, take a link via an ip which reverses to intelsatone.net to a cambodgian ip (500ms latency right here), then reach the ip 175.45.177.217, assigned to Star Joint Venture Co Ltd. Who seem to be a legitimate North Korea internet provider (or, well, as legitimate as it gets, coming from North…

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the ICMP responses are forged - It seems disadvantageous for the site to have such a long path, since each hop has the potential for attack. http://www.thoughtcrime.org/software/fakeroute/ can be seen as previous work that it is practical to do something like this.

They can also have someone inside the Thai Star Joint corporation that does the internet connectivity in NK.

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by petenixey »

fleitz wrote: post #80
binarymax wrote: post #38

This makes me upset. Its upsetting because while yes, information freedom is a very important topic and needs to happen, but it does not trump human freedom. I'm not sure if this is a straw man or not - but how can they justify working with an entity that has such a horrid human rights record?

Yes, definitely, we should not stand by while companies host their content in countries known to use torture to extract information, hold prisoners with out trial, hold prisoners with out charge, allow their leaders to execute citizens summarily, execute minors and the mentally retarded, incarcerate people at a rate higher than any other country on earth merely in order to serve as slave labour for the state and stat…

Assuming this is not in fact a reference to NK at all what is the execution of minors and the mentally retarded that you refer to?

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by tadfisher »

felipeko wrote: post #87
raverbashing wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everybody has the right to leave the US Nobody has the right to leave NK That alone says loads. The most essential freedom is the freedom to disagree and leave. North Koreans don't have that right.

Oh well, that's just because US thinks it owns every other country. Just see what they tried to do with Assange and Kim Dotcom. They could've done that countless times with less public people.

I suppose having an extradition treaty with another country implies ownership, now. Thanks for having an enlightening discussion!

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by [deleted] »

INTPenis wrote: post #76
binarymax wrote: post #38

This makes me upset. Its upsetting because while yes, information freedom is a very important topic and needs to happen, but it does not trump human freedom. I'm not sure if this is a straw man or not - but how can they justify working with an entity that has such a horrid human rights record?

I think this can help you understand their mentality, PRQ, the hosting company behind TPB, have hosted pedophiles. I don't know if they still do because I haven't kept track, but they did for sure host pedophile message boards in 2005-2006 where pedophiles discussed things like raising children for sex. Why? I can only guess that it's because they believe in freedom of speech over everything else.

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Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by Joyfield »

romnempire wrote: post #61
downandout wrote: post #57

Hosting a site already hated by US authorities in a country that the US considers to be an enemy is probably not the best idea. My guess is that a US Senator or Congressman is somewhere right now drafting a bill that would prohibit US internet providers from providing access to sites hosted in North Korea.

hey, they could probably buy the implementation from iran!

Why? They sold it to them.... (Ok, Nokia did....)

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by pavel_lishin »

pdeuchler wrote: post #95

Holy Crap. This is... unprecedented. So North Korea will now have access to the entire Western World's culture catalog? For Free?! I wonder how Kim Jong Un will exploit that. And now anyone who downloads a torrent from TPB has potentially been compromised? Or is that alarmist?

> So North Korea will now have access to the entire Western World's culture catalog?

The part that owns computers, sure.

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