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Dear A.I.G., I Quit

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#31

Says the rain drop, "Flood!? I'm not responsible for any flood! I'm just one tiny drop! Its all of that other water that made the flood."

Not sure why this straw man is getting so many up votes. He's not saying he had minimal impact. He's saying it was nothing to do with him and he never profited from it at all.

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#32
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find myself unable to identify with -- or muster any empathy whatsoever -- for an individual who received $742,006.40 (post-tax) and can readily afford to donate it to charity without concern for his family's well-being despite the current economic climate.

I see your point. But assuming he had nothing to do with the derivative crisis, he is just basically cleaning up a mess made by someone else. And he has now effectively been paid nothing for his work. Sure, he can afford it, and he was a senior vp at AIG, so I am sure there is a lot more he could have done. But he played an ancillary role in this crisis. And this is basically turning into a witch hunt. If he had been…

"Sure, he can afford it, and he was a senior vp at AIG, so I am sure there is a lot more he could have done."

Being a vice-president at a financial institution does not mean one has much executive power. For instance, a couple of years ago Goldman Sachs had over 300 vice-presidents. I don't know if AIG has the same hierarchy as Wall Street banks have (or had, since some have gone bust), but if such is the case, then a VP is not exactly a top dog, so to say.

"This is basically turning into a witch hunt"

It sure is! The politicians (mainly the democrats but also the republicans) have realized that the American people's sentiment is, all of a sudden, strongly against the financial institutions, and they're positioning themselves so they can profit politically from other people's misery. Politicians have no values, only re-election dreams.

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#33

Says the rain drop, "Flood!? I'm not responsible for any flood! I'm just one tiny drop! Its all of that other water that made the flood."

By this logic, anyone who bought a house in the last 5 years is a rain drop.

Indeed, but I think that's the point.

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#34

Says the rain drop, "Flood!? I'm not responsible for any flood! I'm just one tiny drop! Its all of that other water that made the flood."

By this logic, anyone who bought a house in the last 5 years is a rain drop.

Why wouldn't irresponsible home buyers be considered complicit?

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#35
One point: Jake is clearly trying to portray himself as the self-made, hard-working, humble American. In my opinion, he would've been better off not publishing this article in the NY Times. From my point of view, it seems he is searching for the spotlight by providing his letter of resignation to the Times. A good read for sure, but I am forced to consider this when I dig deep down in my stomach to find pity for him.

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#36
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Sorry Jake, but I don't feel sorry for you. Well, maybe a little, if your claims about being tarred unfairly with the CDS debacle are true. But stop whining. All over the USA, people who work hard, who get great reviews from bosses, customers and peers, who were promised bonuses and profit sharing, are seeing instead slashed pay and benefits. That is, if they are lucky, and not getting RIFed. Your company is in the c…

The company should have gone bankrupt (and certainly would have, without US government intervention), in which case none of these people would have seen any bonuses at all. he should be grateful for the $1 :-)

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#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this logic, anyone who bought a house in the last 5 years is a rain drop.

Why wouldn't irresponsible home buyers be considered complicit?

I don't think comatose_kid ever said they shouldn't be. I think he just implied that not all home buyers are complicit.

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#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this logic, anyone who bought a house in the last 5 years is a rain drop.

Why wouldn't irresponsible home buyers be considered complicit?

So should we promise irresponsible homeowners a lump sum for a years' worth of their work and then at the end of the year not pay them?

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why wouldn't irresponsible home buyers be considered complicit?

I don't think comatose_kid ever said they shouldn't be. I think he just implied that not all home buyers are complicit.

If the e-mail author earned an income remotely commensurate with individual value produced rather than taking gross advantage of market inefficiencies while attempting to sidle all culpability when the market (somewhat) corrected, the implication's point would be valid.
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