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Re: The Rise Of The Artist

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gnosis wrote: post #147
erichocean wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is an argument I don't understand. Imagine, instead, that compared to the 1970s, everyone today was twice as healthy as they were back then. But, some people are 10,000x healthier than they were in the 70s. I get the impression that the "inequity" people think we should prefer the 1970s, because at least then, even though we were all sicker , no one was 10,000x healthier. It's such a strange position to me to d…

"I get the impression that the "inequity" people think we should prefer the 1970s, because at least then, even though we were all sicker, no one was 10,000x healthier." Except that in order to become healthier, you don't have to take someone else's health away. I think a better analogy would be something like that (stupid) movie In Time, where people are given a certain amount of time to live when they turn 25. They…

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Re: The Rise Of The Artist

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Post by tharshan09 »

Personally I found "learning to draw" process quite slow. Like most people, I thought it would be like learning a new language and probably bought some sort of tablet and started reading up on some tutorials. However I found the process almost unrepeatable when doing it on my own intuition. Ive been told I was much better at drawing when I was younger so I thought I would try and revive that "talent", and it was no easy process. I still have my wacom tablet, and still look in awe at the amazing illustation and digital artwork that people have done with these tools on DeviantArt.

If anyone has any suggestions/links to things that helped them the most in the process I would like to hear.

Re: The Rise Of The Artist

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Post by nessus42 »

I have to echo to some degree the opinion of those who say that this essay is presenting a false dichotomy. I went to MIT, but all throughout my grade school education and high school education, I was required to study English, which was largely about writing creative essays of one sort or another. And if I hadn't done very will in those English classes, MIT would not have accepted me. And then as a student at MIT, we were required to take a full year of humanities. I assume this is because the MIT culture understands that you need to be able to think in all sort of different ways, and with your entire brain, to successfully solve problems.

Re: The Rise Of The Artist

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Post by nickheer »

qzxt wrote: post #63
gnosis wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I voluntarily teach math at a school here in MN, so i get some insight into what's going on at the schools and the fact is, while the politicians and corporations are sounding off about STEM, at schools people are still talking more about funding "the arts"." From what I understand, if you are a math teacher you virtually have a guaranteed job at many, many highschools across the nation. If you're an art teacher, go…

If you're talking about the economic prognosis of art, I'd like to direct you to the world of high-end sports cars. There are many people who can afford to buy and maintain them in this world. Not all of them do. Just like many people can afford to buy works of art, but not all of them do. Why? Because one doesn't really need a sports car, just like one doesn't really need an art piece. The author's essay isn't one o…

"Hasn't stopped me from writing poems in my spare time and engaging in my other pursuits."

This is the epitome of the lack of concern for creative practices that gnosis is referring to. It's a "spare time" thing. Anyone can do it. It's not a real job. It doesn't deserve the effort or respect that STEM gets. (I'm not saying this is what you believe, but this is a trope I've noticed.)

The idea that there is widespread respect for creative types of all breeds is hogwash. I work as both a front-end web developer and a web designer. I can provide the exact same quote for the exact same amount of work for those two fields, but I have to fight tooth and nail to get anywhere close to my estimate if it's a design project.

Re: The Rise Of The Artist

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Post by xelfer »

somethingbad wrote: post #95
xelfer wrote: post #34

What websites do people here suggest if one did want to learn to draw?

Whilst I don't condone this articles sentiment I have used these sites in the past for learning to draw (digitally). If you like Photoshop:: Free http://ctrlpaint.com These guys are amazing:: Paid http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/ and others:: Free http://www.proko.com/videos/ http://theroundtablet.com/ Some inspiration:: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?870-Journey-of-a... http://www.deviantart.com/ Proba…

Thanks!

Re: The Rise Of The Artist

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Post by jisaacstone »

gnosis wrote: post #147
erichocean wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is an argument I don't understand. Imagine, instead, that compared to the 1970s, everyone today was twice as healthy as they were back then. But, some people are 10,000x healthier than they were in the 70s. I get the impression that the "inequity" people think we should prefer the 1970s, because at least then, even though we were all sicker , no one was 10,000x healthier. It's such a strange position to me to d…

"I get the impression that the "inequity" people think we should prefer the 1970s, because at least then, even though we were all sicker, no one was 10,000x healthier." Except that in order to become healthier, you don't have to take someone else's health away. I think a better analogy would be something like that (stupid) movie In Time, where people are given a certain amount of time to live when they turn 25. They…

> Except that in order to become healthier, you don't have to take someone else's health away.

Yes an in order to become wealthier you do not have to take someone else's wealth away. A brief look at history will show this to be true

Re: The Rise Of The Artist

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Post by arikrak »

"Over the next 100 years, the importance of creativity will trump systems thinking due to the rapidly escalating power of computers."

Right, because more technology has always led to less demand for math/technical skills. And where are the numbers to back up such a claim? Oh wait.. well at least there are pictures..

Re: The Rise Of The Artist

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Post by Morcane »

qzxt wrote: post #50

This talk of "right-brain" revolution has become so popular that no one even realizes the fundamental irony of it all. The fallacy that the "creative" arts have been under appreciated in society is the largest piece of bollocks I've ever heard. I voluntarily teach math at a school here in MN, so i get some insight into what's going on at the schools and the fact is, while the politicians and corporations are sounding…

You sound really bitter.
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