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Re: New kernel.org

#31

Post by IvarTJ »

BUGHUNTER wrote: post #28
lucb1e wrote: post #27

Nice font, kernel.org http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg I always love websites with custom fonts that don't render correctly. When I see a website with great typography, most of the time it turns out to be Georgia or Arial, or sometimes even Timew New Roman (which his a good font, but simply overused). I've yet to see a custom font that reads better than correctly applied default fonts.

ME TOO! http://snag.gy/Ylpjg.jpg When a site like kernel.org goes online with a broken font, something must be fundamentally wrong in the world of programmers and people generating content for displays. What would be the situation like, if we were printing millions of books with 20 dpi technology? Would this be ignored by the masses and people who are annoyed by the eye-hurting results would be trolls? We should see…

Here it renders perfectly on Fedora in Firefox, Chrome and Safari on Mac OS X, Firefox and IE9 on Windows Vista.

It would be nice if the people who encounter these text-rendering problems mention what setup they use.

Re: New kernel.org

#32

Post by indigenous »

lucb1e wrote: post #27

Nice font, kernel.org http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg I always love websites with custom fonts that don't render correctly. When I see a website with great typography, most of the time it turns out to be Georgia or Arial, or sometimes even Timew New Roman (which his a good font, but simply overused). I've yet to see a custom font that reads better than correctly applied default fonts.

You need to enable the site in noscript for its fonts to render correctly.

Re: New kernel.org

#33

Post by lucb1e »

IvarTJ wrote: post #31
BUGHUNTER wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ME TOO! http://snag.gy/Ylpjg.jpg When a site like kernel.org goes online with a broken font, something must be fundamentally wrong in the world of programmers and people generating content for displays. What would be the situation like, if we were printing millions of books with 20 dpi technology? Would this be ignored by the masses and people who are annoyed by the eye-hurting results would be trolls? We should see…

Here it renders perfectly on Fedora in Firefox, Chrome and Safari on Mac OS X, Firefox and IE9 on Windows Vista. It would be nice if the people who encounter these text-rendering problems mention what setup they use.

Google Chrome on Linux Mint 13 (Ubuntu 12.04LTS). Probably same issue on Chrome on Windows 7.

The reason I didn't mention my hardware at first is because nobody ever gives a damn about typography. I've tested these bugs cross-platform often enough, but nobody ever replies, so I stopped doing that.

Re: New kernel.org

#34

Post by lucb1e »

indigenous wrote: post #32
lucb1e wrote: post #27

Nice font, kernel.org http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg I always love websites with custom fonts that don't render correctly. When I see a website with great typography, most of the time it turns out to be Georgia or Arial, or sometimes even Timew New Roman (which his a good font, but simply overused). I've yet to see a custom font that reads better than correctly applied default fonts.

You need to enable the site in noscript for its fonts to render correctly.

Javascript is on.

Re: New kernel.org

#35

Post by lucb1e »

mich41 wrote: post #30
lucb1e wrote: post #27

Nice font, kernel.org http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg I always love websites with custom fonts that don't render correctly. When I see a website with great typography, most of the time it turns out to be Georgia or Arial, or sometimes even Timew New Roman (which his a good font, but simply overused). I've yet to see a custom font that reads better than correctly applied default fonts.

Works for me. Probably you are using some Linux distribution with misconfigured freetype.

In that case Windows 7 also has a misconfigured freetype.

Re: New kernel.org

#36

Post by lucb1e »

wtallis wrote: post #11
Nux wrote: post #10

Seems like a common sense design, no complaints, but it's funny to notice how the wider our screens become, the narrower the sites get.

That's no surprise to me - monitors are so ridiculously wide these days that it's impossible to ignore the need to limit the length of a line of text. When you're working at 1680x1050 you can kinda ignore it, but with 1920 or more horizontal pixels, text needs to be broken up into columns, and you've also got enough horizontal space to have two windows side-by-side without feeling cramped.

That has always surprised me about Wikipedia. So many articles on recommended line width, height, font, etc., and Wikipedia gets away with just one style rule (font-family: sans-serif). Never heard any complaints or noticed that it was bad typography.

Yeah they have more style rules, but disabling them doesn't visibly change anything so they're the defaults.

Re: New kernel.org

#37

Post by mich41 »

lucb1e wrote: post #35
mich41 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Works for me. Probably you are using some Linux distribution with misconfigured freetype.

In that case Windows 7 also has a misconfigured freetype.

MS always screws something up...

Maybe your browser uses it. Or misconfigured/buggy something else. Anyway, this font appears to render correctly for most people.

Re: New kernel.org

#38

Post by csense »

devicenull wrote: post #15
parfe wrote: post #12

I started using pelican recently and I really enjoy static site generation. It's amazing how little needs to actually execute server side (blog content in a database?) It's also much easier to focus on writing when I don't have shiny objects distracting me.

I wish it were a more mainstream thing. It's impossible to compromise a statically generated website (discounting webserver/OS level vulnerablities). It's significantly more secure then Wordpress running tons of plugins

I'm thinking of being able to serve pages when you hit the front page of HN or Slashdot or Techcrunch. You'll probably be fine, or worst case you can put it on AWS in five minutes and have all the scalability you need.

OTOH if you have a database, scaling's going to be a pain.

Re: New kernel.org

#39

Post by BUGHUNTER »

mich41 wrote: post #30
lucb1e wrote: post #27

Nice font, kernel.org http://i.snag.gy/05FuX.jpg I always love websites with custom fonts that don't render correctly. When I see a website with great typography, most of the time it turns out to be Georgia or Arial, or sometimes even Timew New Roman (which his a good font, but simply overused). I've yet to see a custom font that reads better than correctly applied default fonts.

Works for me. Probably you are using some Linux distribution with misconfigured freetype.

I knew these kind of answers would pop up, I had one sentence predicting this in my text, but erased it to let the magic happen.

Are you able to realize that it is, of many options you have, the dumbest possibility to just burp a simple "it works here". Would you answer this on a bugreport?

I assume, it was an ironic answer, in this case I congrat you for holding the mastership of the highest art of subtile trolling, very inspriring.

In fact you are simulating the typical xtreme-dumb answers perfectly, that are received on "bad-font-whining" regularly - this is exactly the reason why we need a major bad-font-campaign, because this is not only a technical problem, but the roots seem to be hidden in a deeper socio-techno-cultural level of our brains - that "systems are getting too complex"-stuff leads in the end to the human brain regressing strongly in certain areas to amoeba-state.

Re: New kernel.org

#40

Post by BUGHUNTER »

IvarTJ wrote: post #31
BUGHUNTER wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ME TOO! http://snag.gy/Ylpjg.jpg When a site like kernel.org goes online with a broken font, something must be fundamentally wrong in the world of programmers and people generating content for displays. What would be the situation like, if we were printing millions of books with 20 dpi technology? Would this be ignored by the masses and people who are annoyed by the eye-hurting results would be trolls? We should see…

Here it renders perfectly on Fedora in Firefox, Chrome and Safari on Mac OS X, Firefox and IE9 on Windows Vista. It would be nice if the people who encounter these text-rendering problems mention what setup they use.

Wasted too much time with these kind of reports.

Also every web designer that is not testing stuff on the 10 most used system configurations of the world will have a very bad time in hell and will receive some extra eternities for prolonged torture.

Web designers must develop more interest in making the text readable everywhere. Underlying technical problems are well known to the "community" and should be solved.

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