anyone can learn to code. but can anyone really learn to draw?
Yes? There are lot of books, videos and other materials that can teach you how to draw better. Like with coding, or anything, with practice you can become quite good at it.
The Rise Of The Artist
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#22My brain can't do art. I have tried for 20 years. I am never happy and keep going to try and make it perfect. And I never succeed. I end up tossing it in the bin after my attempts at perfection make it look like like a mess.
I like code since it works or it doesn't. Sure, it could be better but as long as it works and is secure I don't really care. And yes, 90% is using PHP.
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#23anyone can learn to code. but can anyone really learn to draw?
I'd say a better question would be:
Anyone can learn to code or draw, but can anyone really learn to code or draw well?
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#24The author here makes bold, sweeping predictions about the future. While these might come true, Hoffman offers no concrete evidence to bake up the claims.
Hoffman suggests that because computers are becoming more powerful, the people who work closely with them will be less marketable, and their skills less valuable. Maybe I'm short-sighted, but I don't see this as coming true.
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#25why not do both?
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#26Picture a writer. You've seen him countless times in tv shows and movies. Brow furrowed, pencil gripped tight between teeth, hunched over a typewritter, tearing pages out and throwing them into an overflowing waste basket, staring at the ceiling praying for inspiration.
Picture a developer. Brow furrowed, hunched over a keyboard, the room is dark but he glows from the light of the monitor, a pile of empty mountain dew cans littering his waste basket, slamming his fist on the desk in frustation.
Creativity is noticing the absence of something and knowing how to bring from the void into reality. You sketch it. You poke it and prod it. You shape it until it is just so. You love it until you hate it enough to call it done.
Sounds a lot like coding, at least if you are doing it right.
Please, learn how to code. Learn how to draw. Learn how to think. Learn how to write. Learn how to solve problems. Learn how to do everything until something sticks. Not until you find something that you 'love', but until you find something that you just can't not do. And when you grow tired of it, do something else.
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#27Some of the assumptions made here are absolute nonsense:
1. Programming is purely science: If so, then why can't we teach the computer to do it?
2. Coding is not a "conventional skill" that should be taught: Schools teach physics and math because they make up the system of which we live in, then why not software? It is an integral part of our day to day lives.
3. Software and computers are at a point where they can operate wih minimum human interference: to any programmer this is ridiculous because we all know that we still live in the Stone Age equivelant of what software engineering should be like.
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#28Not a rebuttal, but--
This post reeks of wish fulfillment.
1) Underdog Rises fantasy
2) Everyone thinks they're creative
3) Talent evaluation is difficult enough in the current paradigm. Hiring/promoting based on 'creativity' is even harder. How can super-creative types 'rise to the top' if we mere mortals can't identify them to begin with? (Before you answer with platitudes about track record or whatever, ask yourself how well your solution is even faring right now. There are a gazillion recruiting startups for a reason.)
4) Author takes several paragraphs to explain an idea that requires two sentences.
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#29I've been coding for over 20 years now and I absolutely suck at drawing. The only kind of drawings I've ever done are circuit diagrams, but I don't think they count. I bought a copy of Betty Edwards' "Drawing on the right side of the brain" over a year ago but never got around reading. Maybe I should dust it off and start with it. Does anybody have any recommendations for coders learning to draw?
that is a good book. a class based on it would be even better. you can also practice with GIMP
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#30"I don't know how to draw" -many of my friends, simultaneously dismissing drawing as out of reach and as a challenging hobby in which they fear they could not be good at - at least in the crucial initial stages (the fear of peer judgement) If you want to learn how to draw, you can learn how to draw. You start out drawing lines and blocks, move on to cylinders, than to pots and pans, shoes, chairs, simple still-lifes…
Here[1] is an excellent HN thread about that painter in your first link.
The video[2] in the top link of that thread is a little long, but very much worth watching. I was incredibly impressed by this man's perseverence and achievement.
[1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3031684
[2] - https://s3.amazonaws.com/markerdmann.com/Paintings.mov