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Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

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The SSD is soldered to the MB. Neither piece is user serviceable. This was mentioned in the comments of a googler g+ post showing off crouton the day of the announcement by the author.

That was for the Samsung ARM chromebook, not the new Chromebook Pixel, which has an Intel i5 processor. I bet it is just as replaceable as the Macbook Air's internals (e.g. replaceable, but you need one of the small SSD-sticks)

Nope, the SSD is indeed soldered on board.

Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

#42

OK, I need a portable dev machine. I thought about installing Ubuntu on my old 2008 Macbook Air (1,1), but the Ubuntu page itself says that it's a painful install. How good would a chromebook be for, say, developing a small rails app?

Highly depends on your workflow and the hardware you've chosen. If you're developing locally and have the $249 Samsung Chromebook, it only comes with 2GB RAM and 16GB disk soldered onboard, so things are going to get pretty tight.

Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

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It boggles my mind that Google isn't making Chrome OS more developer-friendly. If they could bring developers on board, they'd have a good beachhead for taking over the desktop market. They should enable us to build privileged native applications that use the DOM for their user interface but have unfettered access to the underlying OS just like any other application would.

Sounds like Firefox OS. Yes, Google should do that.

Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

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It boggles my mind that Google isn't making Chrome OS more developer-friendly. If they could bring developers on board, they'd have a good beachhead for taking over the desktop market. They should enable us to build privileged native applications that use the DOM for their user interface but have unfettered access to the underlying OS just like any other application would.

Take a look at Chrome packaged apps: https://developer.chrome.com/apps/about_apps.html

It's probably not as powerful as you want but it already can do quite a lot.

Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

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Cheapest 13" rMBP has: - faster CPU (i5 2.5 vs 1.8 GHz) - double the RAM (8 vs 4 GB) - bigger HD (as you say) - wider aspect ratio (Pixel has 100 extra pixels along the bottom in an overall smaller package) - a bit higher (1.9 vs 1.6 cm) - a bit heavier (1.62 vs 1.52 kg) - bigger battery and runtime (74 vs 59Wh, reportedly 7 vs 5 hours) Overall, a lot to be said for the rMBP. Good to have options.

The MacBook Pro also has: - Thunderbolt - USB 3.0 - Bluetooth 4.0 - Optical In/Out - MagSafe - Better Trackpad Not to mention a company with a history of great support. There really isn't any good reason to buy a Pixel.

Unless you can't stand OS X. Also the "Better Trackpad" is arguable. And I'll take the Pixel's screen.

MagSafe is a big draw though, arguably as important as almost anything else. Comparing the screen on my MBA to the screen in the new Dell Developer laptop with IPS is a bummer though.

In all honesty, I've never even seen a USB3.0 device in the wild either. Not an argument against the option, of course.

Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

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To run crouton you need to put your machine into developer mode though, which could mean that all bets are off. (e.g. if you power it off, it comes back up without requiring a password, since this is annoying/unnecessary if you're actually developing for Chrome OS.)

Uh, no. I have had my Samsung ARM chromebook in developer mode since day one, and I always need to put in my Google password to log in, even if you are not connected to a network.

Right but any gmail user can login too (and use your chroot).

Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

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The MacBook Pro also has: - Thunderbolt - USB 3.0 - Bluetooth 4.0 - Optical In/Out - MagSafe - Better Trackpad Not to mention a company with a history of great support. There really isn't any good reason to buy a Pixel.

Unless you can't stand OS X. Also the "Better Trackpad" is arguable. And I'll take the Pixel's screen. MagSafe is a big draw though, arguably as important as almost anything else. Comparing the screen on my MBA to the screen in the new Dell Developer laptop with IPS is a bummer though. In all honesty, I've never even seen a USB3.0 device in the wild either. Not an argument against the option, of course.

Is there anything to stop you from installing Linux or Windows on a macbook?

Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

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post #48

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Unless you can't stand OS X. Also the "Better Trackpad" is arguable. And I'll take the Pixel's screen. MagSafe is a big draw though, arguably as important as almost anything else. Comparing the screen on my MBA to the screen in the new Dell Developer laptop with IPS is a bummer though. In all honesty, I've never even seen a USB3.0 device in the wild either. Not an argument against the option, of course.

Is there anything to stop you from installing Linux or Windows on a macbook?

Nope, Ubuntu 13.04 works perfectly out of the box on my Air. With older versions you have to install more stuff to make sure the fans kick in, etc.

edit: Actually, hotplug Thunderbolt is touchy in Linux 3.8 because Apple's thunderbolt implementation is back-ass-ward stupid, but that's not really a biggie, I don't use Thunderbolt for anything really (the display out is fine)

Re: Chromebook: Ubuntu alongside stock Chrome OS

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Uh, no. I have had my Samsung ARM chromebook in developer mode since day one, and I always need to put in my Google password to log in, even if you are not connected to a network.

Same here, not sure what mjs is talking about.

Huh, I wonder what the crouton developer was talking about then. No encrypted disk? (I don't have Chrome OS, I was just guessing what the crouton README might mean.)
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