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Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
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Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#22This is awesome! I've been waiting for a solution like this
Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#23I'm missing something. Can you explain this to me as if I were five? I'm really gun shy with anything involving my customers CC data, and I suspect others are too. Some of my concerns: 1) Authorize now but only charge when actually shipping is standard Visa policy. Doing it any other way is not allowed. Your system seems like a workaround for that, which raises my alarm bells. 2) To be clear - you are storing the cre…
I second qeorge's concerns about PCI compliance and credit card storage. Futhermore, credit card processors and banks do not want to be on the hook for what happens when the items do not ship in these pre-order scenarios. The CCs are all about limiting their exposure to risk and this opens them up to a number of issues regarding products not shipped on time, not as advertised, etc.
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Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#24I'm missing something. Can you explain this to me as if I were five? I'm really gun shy with anything involving my customers CC data, and I suspect others are too. Some of my concerns: 1) Authorize now but only charge when actually shipping is standard Visa policy. Doing it any other way is not allowed. Your system seems like a workaround for that, which raises my alarm bells. 2) To be clear - you are storing the cre…
> 1) Authorize now but only charge when actually shipping is standard Visa policy. Doing it any other way is not allowed. Your system seems like a workaround for that, which raises my alarm bells.
According to their demo product page[0], your card is only charged when the product ships. Is that your concern?
Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#25I'd like to know the following: can't you already do this with Stripe? They seem to use stripe as their backend, so how is this different than me doing this with stripe on my own (i.e. collect charge tokens, charge later)? Or do stripe's tokens expire after a short period of time, I haven't looked into that yet.
I genuinely want to know because I'm potentially interested.
Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#26One of the main reasons I feel comfortable about using Kickstarter is the fact that I know my funds won't get released to the company/person unless enough people "fund" it. Once enough people back it then I'm not as worried about losing my money (probably more psychological than anything) because I feel like there would be a huge uproar if someone tried running off. This doesn't really seem to give me as the "pre-orderer" any security. Also...who really loves Celery?
Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#27I'm missing something. Can you explain this to me as if I were five? I'm really gun shy with anything involving my customers CC data, and I suspect others are too. Some of my concerns: 1) Authorize now but only charge when actually shipping is standard Visa policy. Doing it any other way is not allowed. Your system seems like a workaround for that, which raises my alarm bells. 2) To be clear - you are storing the cre…
In the case of pre-ordering, Celery doesn't make any authorizations/holds upon the creation of the order. We use Stripe to make sure the card is valid and the charge is processed at a later time.
Celery does not store the credit cards and all payment information transferred is encrypted with SSL. The cards are held within Stripe's vault. Each seller uses their own Stripe token.
The chargebacks would affect the seller, since the payments are linked to their Stripe account. It's important that seller is able to actually ship the item if they decide to charge the buyer. Otherwise, they would need to refund or risk getting hit with chargebacks.
Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#28The name "Celery" made me think of the task queue[1]. In both cases though it's a very random name. [1] http://www.celeryproject.org/
The logo looks almost identical to the old celery (task queue) logo. Not sure how the word "celery" relates to payments, but the name of the task queue is not random: rabbits like celery (rabbitmq.com).
I feel compelled to say this as a rabbit owner; they do like celery (because they like most things) but eating too much or too large pieces can lead to digestion problems because of the strings in the celery. The more you know.
Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#29I'd like to know the following: can't you already do this with Stripe? They seem to use stripe as their backend, so how is this different than me doing this with stripe on my own (i.e. collect charge tokens, charge later)? Or do stripe's tokens expire after a short period of time, I haven't looked into that yet. I genuinely want to know because I'm potentially interested.
You could do it yourself, but there's a lot of people who don't have the technical knowledge to do so. This is my understanding from speaking with independent makers and builders (e.g., Kickstarter grads) over the past year. Payments is only one part of commerce. Our mission is to package everything together (order management, analytics, a commerce API, etc).
Re: Show HN: Finally, You Can Accept Pre-Orders after Kickstarter with Celery
#30I'm a bit confused but is this the same concept as shopstarter.org that was posted here a week or two ago?