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Show them some Pixar movie and tell them how those movies were made with technology. Tell them how technology enables sports bring people whom they can relate with. Not Zukerberg or Gates.
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Speaking as one, MIT programmers go for a lot more than 60k.
That's why it's a job 'opening'. My point was that it doesn't get filled but people classify it as an opening, but if someone wanted a Harvard lawyer for $60k it wouldn't even get listed.
https://www.google.com/about/jobs/search/#t=sq&q=j&j...
http://careers.microsoft.com/careers/en/us/grad-software-job...
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> but you can get a job just fine without a degree. I have a few relatives who are well versed in computers but cannot find employment. I'm sure they would be reassured by your comment.
Being "well-versed in computers" is not the same thing as being a valuable programmer. If you are a valuable programmer and you still can't find a job without a degree, you're doing something wrong (what you're doing wrong varies individually, of course). I have no degree, and have never gone more than a month without a job offer while actively looking for a position. One time it took two months to find a position wi…
Edit : essentially, you just re-defined bar without providing any real context.
Taken a step further (and perhaps in a different job market), someone might say "oh, well being a valuable programmer isn't the same as being a Rockstar programmer..."
The key lies in the word "valuable", which is completely situational and vague, whereas "programmer" is not.
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But most have access to Excel. VBA has it warts but the step from Excel is small and creating something valuable is actually possible for beginners.
VBA ... gosh ... Why don't you just use a Web browser and Javascript.
- To be really productive Javascript requires knowledge of HTML/CSS
- Both have their quircks
- For the things people do in their day jobs Excel/VBA is a better match
- You can do some mathematical stuff easier, it has matrix multiplication and a generally usable solver
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Being "well-versed in computers" is not the same thing as being a valuable programmer. If you are a valuable programmer and you still can't find a job without a degree, you're doing something wrong (what you're doing wrong varies individually, of course). I have no degree, and have never gone more than a month without a job offer while actively looking for a position. One time it took two months to find a position wi…
What exactly is a " valuable programmer "? It's about as vague a notion as being " well versed in computers ". Edit : essentially, you just re-defined bar without providing any real context. Taken a step further (and perhaps in a different job market), someone might say "oh, well being a valuable programmer isn't the same as being a Rockstar programmer..." The key lies in the word "valuable", which is completely situ…
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What exactly is a " valuable programmer "? It's about as vague a notion as being " well versed in computers ". Edit : essentially, you just re-defined bar without providing any real context. Taken a step further (and perhaps in a different job market), someone might say "oh, well being a valuable programmer isn't the same as being a Rockstar programmer..." The key lies in the word "valuable", which is completely situ…
A valuable programmer, in this context, is someone who seeks to get paid by a company to write code and would have a significant (as far as individual employees go) net-positive influence on that company's financials.
Namely, that you can get a job "just fine" if you're a programmer of sufficient talent and knowledge to be able to be a net-positive influence on a company's financials.
YMMW, but that's a relatively high bar. Higher, at least, than the ease that "just fine" (IMHO) implies.
It's certainly possible, but non-trivial.
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A valuable programmer, in this context, is someone who seeks to get paid by a company to write code and would have a significant (as far as individual employees go) net-positive influence on that company's financials.
So returning to the statement "... you can get a job just fine without a degree ..." comes with an important caveat. Namely, that you can get a job "just fine" if you're a programmer of sufficient talent and knowledge to be able to be a net-positive influence on a company's financials. YMMW, but that's a relatively high bar. Higher, at least, than the ease that "just fine" (IMHO) implies. It's certainly possible , bu…
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I say "bah-humbug" to job security. That means that you just don't know or care about your craft. If you were really "1337" job security would be the last thing on you mind. You would actually be running the show and working on amazing products/solutions. I'm a senior developer and I teach my methods to my colleagues all the time. It doesn't hurt me, but helps the team and the cause immensely. It makes going to work…
> I say "bah-humbug" to job security. That means that you just don't know or care about your craft. I'm twenty-five years old. My wife and I have four cats, a home, two cars, and more than six figures of combined student loan debt. I earn 75% of our total income as a Software Engineer. We can't survive on my wife's income alone and we don't have any family members to fall back on if times get tough. So you, a senior…