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Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by jrockway »

onli wrote: post #222
joenathan wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't, your translator is wrong.

The connotations is not. The translation may be. That is the link: http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_en.html#/search=barely&se...

It seems that your English is good enough that you'd benefit from an English/English dictionary instead of relying on a German/English dictionary. That way, you're understanding the meaning in the same context as native speakers and without being tainted by connotations of words used in the German definition. (I have this problem all the time with English/Japanese dictionaries; I look something up and it doesn't make sense. Then I look it up in a Japanese/Japanese dictionary and everything makes perfect sense. Of course, sometimes that requires a few more trips to the dictionary to understand the definition, but...)

Anyway, if I were learning English I'd pay the $300 for an Oxford English Dictionary. You'll learn a lot that way.

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Post by hughlomas »

onli wrote: post #222
joenathan wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't, your translator is wrong.

The connotations is not. The translation may be. That is the link: http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_en.html#/search=barely&se...

It doesn't have that connotation, "barely legal" implies "fully legal".

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Post by fusiongyro »

skore wrote: post #105
roc wrote: post #67

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While we're keeping history in context, let's also not forget this is also the company that was borderline irrelevant prior to their current direction.

I got a 17" Macbook Pro in 2009 (when they were still riding the wave of the iPhone) because it was a solid piece of hardware and gave me a sweet spot of down-the-road-choice (I exchanged the cd bay with another hdd, added Ram, installed Linux). I was looking forward to buying further Macbooks in the future. All that was shattered with their new Macbook lineup (which are pretty much just beefier MB Airs). They flat o…

Wow, I'm in almost exactly the same boat. I'm on my third and apparently final 17" MBP. I have started resigning myself to switching back to Ubuntu but I'm not enjoying being forced off a beautiful platform after having made friends and family switch. I had been an ardent Linux user for a long time before I went Mac and it looks like I'll be returning sometime in the next few years.

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Post by ben0x539 »

belorn wrote: post #227

When you let someone else handle your email, they own your email. There is no postal secrecy law, no rule against reading. They can touch, modify or delete according to their whims. It's their email now. So I am not that very surprised to hear a news article like this. It makes perfectly sense with the current mentality. It also adds another nail in the coffin about idea that "only a machine is reading my emails. Why…

This is only slightly more reasonable than handing people an axe and sending them into the woods because their landlord won't fix a leaking pipe.

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Post by mukundmr »

aes wrote: post #14

I tested this on my @me.com account, and it's exactly how it works. Email containing the words "barely legal teens" is simply dropped. I find it obscene to an Orwellian extent that Apple actually seems to think that no valid email would ever contain the words "barely legal teens". I wonder what other things Apple thinks are not worth talking about? I have no trust in Apple's email services any more.

I just tested it on my @me.com account. Used the web interface to send an email to my Yahoo account and the email wasn't dropped. Did Apple fix this or is the problem somewhere else?

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Post by cageface »

MBCook wrote: post #299
largesse wrote: post #162

This may sound weird to say, but I'm starting to think that most of Apple's problems come from the fact that it is a hardware company rather than a software company. In a very real way, it seems that they don't get software. I think it comes from pervasive product focus. They are great with products. Less so with the area around the product. Can't have something as nebulous as a cloud without trying to control the pr…

Apple gets software. The problem is they have never gotten network software or network services . It's nice that I can use iCloud to find my iPhone and that it keeps my contacts in sync. Except that it can't keep notes in sync correctly. Which shouldn't be surprising because notes aren't actually notes, they're stored in an email box. That's why you need an @me.com account to sync them. Really there is no iCloud. The…

Not really. Most of their software is bad. Their native iOS apps are inferior. iTunes is junk. HFS is garbage. Their office suite is poor except for maybe Keynote. iLife is marginal. They have a solid foundation in Cocoa but I'm increasingly unimpressed with what they do with it.

I think GP has it exactly right. Their hardware is great but their software is an embarrassment for a company with such resources.

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Post by bad_user »

bpatrianakos wrote: post #199
mikeash wrote: post #46

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"True Apple fashion" has only recently been about resisting power users. Before about five years ago, they were all about enabling power users while still being friendly to regular people. This was much more compelling than their current direction. Remember, this is the company that built their OS on top of UNIX and shipped a terminal app with it standard . It all changed around when the iPhone came out, though.

I don't see how power users have been left out. If you mean they try to keep you out of the OS itself I wouldn't consider that being unfriendly to power users. That's just how they've always been. If you mean the whole dumbing down of the UI, I'd say that's pretty irrelevant. As a power user there's no reason why you couldn't just turn certain stuff back on. Plus it's still the same BSD underneath and they still give…

My iPad disallows me to do tethering, functionality that's available on the iPad but that can be enabled/disabled by the career. My Android phone, from the same career, allows me to do pretty much whatever I want.

iOS doesn't have a terminal. And considering the recent moves with the Mac app store, how long before terminals will stop shipping with OS X?

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