You're whining pussy.
Learning any web application framework involves.... sorry for saying that... learning.
Why I Hate Rails - After six months you’ll be lucky if you have this
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#12I too have experienced frustration at a lot of what the author gripes about here. Most of them aren't specific to Rails, but there's enough that are to make it overwhelming for newcomers. The barrier to entry has become rather high.
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#13I'm not sure which is worse, that people read this and upvoted it, or that they didn't read it and upvoted it.
Disclaimer: not a Rails dev or even a fan, but still the Rails hate is going a little overboard.
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#14I've just completed BerkeleyX CS169.1x (Software as a Service)[1] that teaches Rails and I haven't found it to be painful at all. I'm sure that I'm no expert, but I am competent enough to be building a Rails app of my own that utilizes most of the concepts in the OP. The best way to learn it (IMHO) is to just jump in and do a project, learning as you go. I can see how learning web development from scratch with Rails…
I'd think learning it on your own would be harder than in a college course.
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#15Sounds like he's ranting about the difference between using Rails and really mastering Rails.
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#16At the end of the day, Rails is just as complex as any other stack if you try to understand it completely.
The difference is that Rails makes it easy to get started without understanding everything. In my experience over the last 6 months, I was able to make useful stuff before I fully understood everything. I've continued to learn as I needed and it's been fine.
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#17Ooh ooh, now write a rant on boiling water being too hot and the price of fuel... If you're comparing Rails to PHP you're doing it wrong. And who seriously builds a Rails app without an understanding of basic CSS and HTML? A few parts seemed to be just thrown in there to pad out the rant if you ask me.
I agree that the whole premise of Gems is frustrating and deploying isn't as straight-forward as FTP'ing a folder of PHP files. This is where services like Heroku come in very handy but then that's another problem: relying on a 3rd party service to simplify deploying a Rails app.
Disclaimer: I'm a PHP developer.
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#18I was going to suggest PHP/MySQL but a similar argument applies. Those gems sound cool by the way - any analogs in PHP?
PHP has always had PEAR, but it isn't all that great. Composer[1] is a relatively new dependency manager for PHP that's been getting a lot of love lately though. It's very similar to Node's npm.
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#20I was going to suggest PHP/MySQL but a similar argument applies. Those gems sound cool by the way - any analogs in PHP?
The closest thing in PHP is PEAR/PECL.