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Re: Using Silk Road

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this is incorrect, the site does require you purchase a vendor account but this is from the site admin and not from another user. to become a seller/vendor on the site you just need money, about $500 USD I believe.

But the number of tokens is still limited correct?

no not at all, based on the fact that more sellers = more choice = better prices for consumers

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this is incorrect, the site does require you purchase a vendor account but this is from the site admin and not from another user. to become a seller/vendor on the site you just need money, about $500 USD I believe.

There is no requirement besides money? Seems like there should be some other act which law enforcement would not want to perform, but which a legitimate seller would.

no, if law enforcement paid for an account they could operate however as a new seller they would need to prove themselves by sending out product, something I am sure they could do but probably would not want to get involved in sending out grams of cocaine or heroin for 6 months just to build up a database of people who are buying a gram of drugs for personal use. There is no way to translate a seller account into information regarding the site or other sellers, therefore for law enforcement it is a waste of time and resources.

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Things like antibiotics, ssris, antivirals and other mainstream drugs that aren't abused are often available relatively inexpensively from online pharmacies based out of India due to their price controls and flexible intellectual property laws.

How do people find reputable online pharmacies that sell real meds?

The scary thing is I remember reading about people buying and then GC/MSing the drugs promoted by spammers. 10 seconds of googling doesn't find the result. I think they were mostly real/safe, although some were somewhat under-strength.

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Things like antibiotics, ssris, antivirals and other mainstream drugs that aren't abused are often available relatively inexpensively from online pharmacies based out of India due to their price controls and flexible intellectual property laws.

How do people find reputable online pharmacies that sell real meds?

anything unsolicited = scam anything for ED = good chance its counterfeit

google for pharmacy review sites, pick ones that include reviews from users and the site owner. if there aren't any bad reviews trash it. Usually a few will get most of the discussion - these are usually the safest bets, but make sure to read the last few weeks worth in case somethings gone wrong.

Try to pick one thats been around at least a year and ships a good variety of drugs but skips commonly abused stuff like sedatives, stimulants, steroids and narcotic pain killers as they are much more likely to be a scam.

India is probably the safe choice. Don't order from anywhere that doesn't disclose their location. Don't order from "brokers".

A large variety of boring medicines in every dose manufactured is almost always going to be legit, trustworthy and not counterfeit. It'll usually come wrapped in foil strips that are verifiably the local licensed pharma manufacturer.

Always pay with a credit card and always expect 2-3-4 week deliveries.

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And you won't accomplish anything by shutting down Silk Road. Most of drugs that get in a country don't do it by packages sent by Silk Road. LE (Law enforcement) is already low on resources, so they better use them for bigger 'operators'.

Not to be finicky , but why did you abbreviate law enforcement if you only used it once?

I, uh, think if you're on sites like Silk Road, LE is the typical way of writing it, so he was expanding LE rather than contracting Law Enforcement.

Re: Using Silk Road

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Example of batsheet?

A good example of LW going off the deep end is "Roko's basilisk" and Yudkowsky's response http://kruel.co/2013/01/12/rokos-basilisk-everything-you-nee... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk

I started the RW article because LW readers distressed over the basilisk were emailing me (and other RW contributors) for help, because the matter is banned from discussion at LW. Even though the idea is utterly foolish, it would be inhuman to just tell them to go away; but individual emails don't scale. So, thinking that since secrecy hadn't worked the way out would be the way through, we quickly put that together. Then Warren Ellis and Charlie Stross publicised it and I've spent a coupla days getting it into fit condition for hits from the entire world ...

Frankly, the article is still insane. (Look at the talk page for my girlfriend's reaction. She felt like throwing my laptop across the room for wasting a second of her time on this inanity.) This is because this shit is almost impossible to explain to normal humans. I have found it easier explaining Scientology to normal humans.

Pretty much no-one on LessWrong endorses or believes in the basilisk ... they just advocate most of its component parts.

LessWrong are generally a pretty good bunch, but this will be their Xenu. Unfair as that may be. And they did it to themselves.

(gwern - if you're wondering why Dmytry can be quite such a dick at LW about this stuff, it's because he gets email from LW's distressed children too. He does his best to be a helpful, decent person.)

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