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Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by eridius »

mhurron wrote: post #19
digitalengineer wrote: post #11

Scanning and auto-deleting your email, combined with the Gatekeeper technology wich houses the possibility of Apple telling me what Apps I can or can not run makes me seriously start to wonder the direction Apple is headed... Edit: Gatekeeper is OSX technology. It allows users to only install Apple certified Apps on your mac , not your phone. It's fairly new and possible to turn it off (for now at least).

Apple has always been against Porn on their devices. It's no surprise they're against it on their services as well. Of course this could be a really poorly working spam filter, but I'm inclined to believe this isn't the case.

Why are you inclined to believe this isn't the case? What possible reason would there be for Apple to care one whit about the email that goes to iCloud accounts? The only thing that makes any sense at all is virus/spam filtering.

Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by taligent »

qeorge wrote: post #8
sp332 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should send the messages to your spam folder, then.

It could be server side spam filtering (not all spam messages make it to your spam folder with any provider - the worst offenders are often just thrown out). Just saying it is possible that this is an over-aggressive spam filter vs. Apple taking such an invasive measure. Although, Apple has done similar crazy things before, so who knows.

That's the thing though. Apple has never filtered emails before or even hinted that they would.

I'm going to take a guess that this is just a misconfiguration in the spam filters.

Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by nsmartt »

ianstallings wrote: post #6

Solution: Don't use iCloud.

This is wrong. It goes beyond this. There are various clear examples of Apple exercising far too much authority.

It's not a question of whether you should use certain products. It becomes a question of whether you should trust Apple at all.

Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by cryptoz »

eridius wrote: post #21
mhurron wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has always been against Porn on their devices. It's no surprise they're against it on their services as well. Of course this could be a really poorly working spam filter, but I'm inclined to believe this isn't the case.

Why are you inclined to believe this isn't the case? What possible reason would there be for Apple to care one whit about the email that goes to iCloud accounts? The only thing that makes any sense at all is virus/spam filtering.

> What possible reason would there be for Apple to care one whit about the apps that are installed to your phone?

There, fixed that for you.

Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by vvhn »

rm999 wrote: post #9

Everything about icloud - from the terrible design to the clunky interface - is as Steve Jobs liked to say, "shit". I have icloud and I'm not even sure what it's for; is it a backup service, an e-mail provider, or a way to find my phone? None of these have much in common, so the fact that they're all bundled together really confuses me. And its name is a bit of a misnomer, you can't even do standard cloud stuff like…

> I have icloud and I'm not even sure what it's for

It's a syncing service first (and you can optionally opt in to get an email-id). The website provides you webapps for your synced iCloud contacts, calendars, notes, reminders and iWork documents and for "Find your iDevice". For other applications it serves as cloud "storage" but there's no web interface for those.

The app icons are equivalent to iOS app grid and the little cloud button serves as the home button for the "Apps"

Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by mikestew »

lenazegher wrote: post #13
sp332 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should send the messages to your spam folder, then.

Is there a spam folder for outgoing mail?

The sent folder still works as expected. Oddly enough, offending emails even sync in the sent folder across devices. So Apple doesn't delete your original work (they'll even sync it for you), they just won't send it.

Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by roc »

rm999 wrote: post #9

Everything about icloud - from the terrible design to the clunky interface - is as Steve Jobs liked to say, "shit". I have icloud and I'm not even sure what it's for; is it a backup service, an e-mail provider, or a way to find my phone? None of these have much in common, so the fact that they're all bundled together really confuses me. And its name is a bit of a misnomer, you can't even do standard cloud stuff like…

iCloud is first and foremost just a bit of service glue to make the native email/calendar/etc apps 'work' without sending people to Google or assuming they have a work Exchange account. In that capacity, it's as good as it needs to be. [1]

Similarly the file sharing is just to set a third-party baseline so that file/save sync'ing between Apps on the mobile devices 'works' without sending people off to Dropbox. And in that capacity it also works just fine.

Sure, it resists power-user use. But that's just because, in true Apple fashion, it's not built for it and doesn't care too much about it. But that only makes it 'shit' inasmuch as about 90% of Apple's services are 'shit' and places it distinctly outside the way Jobs defined 'shit'.

[1] Though filtering this crude is cause to reassess that.

Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by sp332 »

qeorge wrote: post #8
sp332 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should send the messages to your spam folder, then.

It could be server side spam filtering (not all spam messages make it to your spam folder with any provider - the worst offenders are often just thrown out). Just saying it is possible that this is an over-aggressive spam filter vs. Apple taking such an invasive measure. Although, Apple has done similar crazy things before, so who knows.

Isn't that generally done on the receiving end? In this case, the message is simply never sent.

Re: Apple’s Deleting iCloud Emails That Contain The Phrase 'Barely Legal Teens'

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Post by snowwrestler »

digitalengineer wrote: post #11

Scanning and auto-deleting your email, combined with the Gatekeeper technology wich houses the possibility of Apple telling me what Apps I can or can not run makes me seriously start to wonder the direction Apple is headed... Edit: Gatekeeper is OSX technology. It allows users to only install Apple certified Apps on your mac , not your phone. It's fairly new and possible to turn it off (for now at least).

It's easy to temporarily disable Gatekeeper, install what you want, and then turn it back on. In no way does it prevent you from running what you want on your own computer. The point is to put another wall against unintended installs (aka exploits), and corrupted/infected versions of known-good software.
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