Soft drinks are one of the biggest offenders. Kids never fail to be amazed that there are the equivalent of 10 teaspoons of sugar in one can of coke.
The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
181–190 of 219 posts
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
May as well provide evidence on the earth revolving around the sun. But here you go: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/12edbj/im_gary_taubes_...
Yes, the opinions of one pop-sci writer are just as well-studied and well-understood as something that has been carefully examined since 1543. Your jerkiness aside, his reply to that seems clear and cogent. In particular, this seems like a reasonable criticism: http://nusi.org/the-science/review-of-the-literature/ It's not even clear to me that the post you link and his reply are necessarily at odds. A calorie-meteri…
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I needed to put a disclaimer to hyperbole.
Besides his general criticism (which is valid), he doesn't actually address any of the findings of the studies.
Aka, cherry-picking.
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#183"The snack that Dunn was proposing to sell: carrots. Plain, fresh carrots. No added sugar. No creamy sauce or dips. No salt. Just baby carrots, washed, bagged, then sold into the deadly dull produce aisle." Ha, I've actually been doing this since I was a teenager. It's really fantastic for managing junk food cravings, which arise not because I'm hungry , but because I just like to have something to chew on while I wo…
I'm curious how many pounds per sq. inch carrots require to chew. The article pointed to 4 as the magic number.
I wonder if there's a way to engineer healthy food to taste better without actually adding any ingredients. Maybe through bio-engineering or the like. Or maybe injecting them with air or drilling out little holes.
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
This, plus a million. Nobody wants to take responsibility for their own diet these days. Stop feeding your kids luncnables and prepare them a damn lunch! Put the chips down, and don't buy shit with HFCS in it. Make your own damn pasta sauce (Crushed tomatoes, green onion, and garlic, it's about as easy at buying prego, but with a million less sugars/salts) Walk places and take the stairs. (brief side note, living in…
Bleh. I may as well respond by bringing up the mother of three who works 12 hour shifts at walmart was expelled from highschool and never had even the most basic idea of food preparation or culinary training. I suppose she should simply 'bootstrap up' like the rest of us did when we were in that situation. Hah, oh that's right, the vast majority here are college educated and in the top 15% of income earners. This get…
Whoa!
In my country people who have never been to school or even know what a school is, ordinary farm labor workers or daily wage workers involved in construction work. Or people who work as a push cart vendors or name any low level work(Which probably you don't even know in the US exists) perfectly cook their own food and feed themselves.
But somehow in the US you need to go to Stanford to learn how to cook!
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh dear, intervall training. http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/stead-state-versus... Spillover can be very significant, regardless of training. It depends on the makeup of the trainee. The body doesn't work like that (first muscle, than fat) for most people. It's a constant flux in and out of the cells and the overall trend over weeks and months matters for your body composition. For that reason muscle gain (…
It seems us hacker news readers certainly love nitpicking. I'm not talking about traditional HIIT (spring, walk, sprint, walk, repeat until you're dead). I'm talking about very fast weight training (Vince Gironda ftw!) which gives gives you plenty of cardio. Done on an empty stomach this demolishes your fat reserves. I read your article and this quote stuck out the most: "The simple fact is that, given that most peop…
I think you are mixing up high volume pump training with HIIT.
If I say I swim, but I actually bareknuckle fight with other guys. Would it be correct to call this "swimming"? Kind of weird to just rename an activity. Regarding empty stomach: http://examine.com/faq/is-it-better-to-do-aerobic-exercise-f...
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> If you eat too much potatoes and nuts (instead of cake) you'll still gain the same amount of fat I think the point of the article is that it is easier to overeat processed foods (such as cake) than unprocessed ones (such as potatoes and nuts) because the former are engineered to not trigger your brain's sense of satiety. Aside from that, I'm a bodybuilder and I hold CrossFitters in very low regard - but the commen…
Why the need to jab at people who do CrossFit? Sure, there are people in the mix that coach in ways that damage the body but there are plenty of people/coaches/gyms who focus on building sustainable athleticism (read: not breaking people's bodies). You're welcome to your own opinion, of course, I can't change that; but what you wrote is just as silly as someone saying that they hold "black/white/asian" people in very…
There is needless damaging going on. No screening and a retarded or no progression at all. With bad technique.
If it would be just useless training, that would be ok. Most Fads are like this.
But this actively harms people : see high rep box jumps and Achilles tendon ruptures, kipping pull-ups and SLAP lesions and high rep Olympic lifts and broken bodies.
Short term results by pushing hard and resistance training for the first time in their lives. Then long term failure.
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
@enraged_camel: Yes, agree. Ad lib it's far easier to not overeat. My point being, that "clean" is too vague and misleading. Why not say unprocessed. Agree on the crossfit comment.
Because "unprocessed" means - nothing that's been processed by humans. That means no salt. No ground pepper. Which is obviously silly BUT there are purists in the primal/paleo community that do follow the guidelines of eating unprocessed food. Is the word "clean" slightly ambiguous? Sure. Is English as a natural language ambiguous? Definitely. I'm not going to go write an entire article about what "clean" means to me…
People just call clean, whatever they like/think is beneficial. Everything they deem harmful is unclean.
So it's useless. Regarding Crossfit: There are some very valid reasons I think very badly about CF. It has amazing marketing and can offer a great community (though cult-like). But harms a lot of people long term > see comment above.
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are wrong. Too much energy dense food makes you fat. Fat will make you fat if you overeat (because the fatty acid molecules from your food will be stored in your fat cells). It's not as easy as "more carbs" = obesity epidemic. There are many more factors, most important being inactivity and overconsumption of food. The carbohydrate hypothesis is very clearly Bullshit: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.de/2011/08/…
"Fat will make you fat if you overeat (because the fatty acid molecules from your food will be stored in your fat cells). It's not as easy as "more carbs" = obesity epidemic." Insulin plays a role in regulating the patitioning of fatty acids in the body. The flawed thinking, that calories burned by the body is a fixed amount that doesn't vary based on calories consumed, is simply wrong. The key is that energy expendi…
Fats and Carbs don't vary that much regarding satiety. Mostly protein and fiber, as I said.
How adipocytes "should" behave depends on circumstances... Insulin resistance is probably more a defensive mechanism against the deleterious effects of overeating.
"The flawed thinking, that calories burned by the body is a fixed amount that doesn't vary based on calories consumed, is simply wrong." Who believes that nonsense? Of course we have adaptive mechanisms that regulate energy output (especially NEAT) based on energy intake. The kcal in/out model is very much valid. You just have to account for fluctuating variables in the formula.
"The key is that energy expenditures only rise when the calories consumed are not being partitioned for storage. Elevated insulin levels cause storage of fatty acids, and inhibit release of fatty acids from fat cells by triggering them to be bound up into triglyceride molecules." But this does not happen in a vaccum. This does not matter if you undereat. And if you overeat on mostly fat we still have extremely significant mechanisms to store these TAGs independently of insulin : HSL / ASP.
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not too impressed by Stephan Guyenet's article. He is wrong about one of his main points that fat is completely regulated by the brain and that insulin does not cause fat gain. You can Google for photographs of people who have done insulin injections in a single place over many years (rather than moving the injection point around) and see huge fat deposits at the injection site. That has got to be tissue regulati…
Try making cream of cauliflower soup tonight, one with skim milk and the other with heavy cream. Measure how many spoonfuls of each that you can eat before getting full. The important question is not how many spoonfulls it's, how many calories ? 1 cup of skim milk is 86 calories. 1 cup of heavy cream is 821 calories. Let's imagine something a little more simple than cauliflower soup: strawberries and cream. 50 calori…
Are you really putting a full cup of cream into a serving of cauliflower soup?
For your strawberries and cream example, I'm known to have blueberries with cream from time to time. Which ends up typically being a half cup or so of blueberries, and a tablespoon or two of cream. Much more than that is far too much (and that's from someone who's got an appetite).
Re: The Extraordinary Science of Addictive Junk Food
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are wrong. Too much energy dense food makes you fat. Fat will make you fat if you overeat (because the fatty acid molecules from your food will be stored in your fat cells). It's not as easy as "more carbs" = obesity epidemic. There are many more factors, most important being inactivity and overconsumption of food. The carbohydrate hypothesis is very clearly Bullshit: http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.de/2011/08/…
The thermic effect of protein is pretty much negligible, and food restriction has also been shown to not be the obvious explanation in trials where they partitioned out exactly the same amount of food (2000 kcal, I believe) in different ratios to find that the lower-carb apportioning caused the greatest weight loss. In short, whatever facts anyone wants to bring up, there will always be more that either disprove, or…
TEF: 20-30% is not negligible. There is even a group of scientist trying to change the default value to 3,2 kcal/g.
Yeah, weight loss is greater because of the bigger WATER loss. (1g Glycogen = 3g Water) Which results in greater intial weight loss. Besides the possibility of low carb being a better treatment for adipose patients/people suffering from Metabolic Syndrome.
"In short, whatever facts anyone wants to bring up, there will always be more that either disprove, or at least throw them into doubt." > Mostly, if you don't know what you are talking about and haven't dived into the actual primary literature. Most just lack some basic domain knowledge and read some Taubes. Now they think there must be some big controversy with carbohydrates and low carb going on. Meh.
Self experimentation is great if you use a non retarded approach. I find too many people trying to reinvent the wheel instead of focusing on some basics and then experimenting with how to integrate them into their life/habit.