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Action.IO: Web Development Server with Full Console, Online IDE and SSH Access

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Re: Action.IO: Web Development Server with Full Console, Online IDE and SSH Access

#22
i like the idea very much, it's not that it is the newest shit in the web, everything was there before most of the time. but i like the design and the web IDE idea.

why? now i can think about leaving my macbook at home for a holiday trip, and when someone reports me an urgent bug, i still could fix it with my ipad. (most of the time urgent bugs are often one liners, so who cares to do this on an ipad)

but it will success or not with the prices...if it's cheaper then my current dedicated server, i might thinking about changing over, i wanted to cancel my dedicated server contract anyway.

so when can we expect prices?

Re: Action.IO: Web Development Server with Full Console, Online IDE and SSH Access

#24

This seems really cool. What's the ETA on node box?

Our homepage is a little outdated (changing soon!) but node boxes are already present! (along with Python and Go) Edit: I'm one of the guys working on action.io btw

what is the stack. I checked for FAQ to see what what Linux distro it runs on. Is it on Ubuntu. Also can install any extra packages that I might need and will I always be constrained to the version of gems you think are compatible or I can always install new gems and upgrade them without fear. Finally do you also have Mongodb installed or I can install it. Kindly add an FAQ on your site that answers this sought of general questions.

Re: Action.IO: Web Development Server with Full Console, Online IDE and SSH Access

#25
This is actually a little sad, I am currently looking for a new hosting provider for our dev environment who will make things easy and give me access to a command line without having to dig through the website for 30 minutes.

I was ready to buy, wanted to try it out and hit sign up (on the pricing page), and the page just didn't do anything. Attention to detail is key in this industry and you almost lost your first customer - I was peeved and navigated back to the home page where I saw the email sign up.

(Moral of the story is, if you include a sign up button on another page, at least make it do something!)

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Also, you should seriously consider adding support for PHP. You might not like the idea, and it isn't sexy, but it's a ridiculously easy hosting setup to manage, and it's way more wide spread, by not including PHP you effectively middle finger 80%+ of all web developers (who aren't set up in Silicon Valley.)

Re: Action.IO: Web Development Server with Full Console, Online IDE and SSH Access

#28

I have to admit, I'm a little confused about the value proposition here. Yes, managing dev environments is indeed a pain. So the answer is...ditch local development entirely and code in the cloud? I'd argue that the better solution is to create a makefile for dev environments and distribute that to your team. You might even call it "Boxen" and release it on Github a few days ago. Call me crazy, but I'm really relucta…

Hey Josh, thanks for the thoughts. You can use tools like Boxen, Puppet or Chef, but those tools are not useful for less experienced developers or designers who have to run the full stack just to touch the markup. Many developers prefer to write code instead of having to maintain scripts to build development environments. Similarly in production, many developers prefer a PaaS like Heroku or AppFog over dealing with V…

> but those tools are not useful for less experienced developers or designers who have to run the full stack just to touch the markup

most of text editors and IDEs have some ftp/ssh capabilities , and most of them are free. If you call yourself a developers and you cant upload a file , you cant call yourself a developer.

> Pair programming collaboration (we pair remotely pretty often), as well as sharing and cloning environments are made possible by hosting the environment on the cloud.

You dont need yet another service for that. Each dev should have it's own environment to mess up with , ( i mean , lauching a server image on a VM is not that difficult , is it ? ) and thanks to CVS you can keep a simple infrastructure to share code.

> Similarly in production, many developers prefer a PaaS like Heroku or AppFog over dealing with VPSes or EC2.

PAAS can be good to start with. At some point ( as very fast ) , you end up with a VPS , because the service sucks and you pay less, really... why would you use Appfog if you cant even upload a big json file (JSON 500 error ... ) at the same time ?

> Many developers prefer to write code instead of having to maintain scripts to build development environments

I disagree 100% , it's part of the job , and there are loads of tools to facilitate deployment. Can a dev be that lazy ? show me a language or a framework that is hard to deploy in 2013 ? even rails is a breeze now.

In essence you are kind of saying , the lazier they come the more they'll pay for that kind of service. it's a bet, good luck anyway.

Re: Action.IO: Web Development Server with Full Console, Online IDE and SSH Access

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How is this different than Cloud9 IDE? https://c9.io/

SSH access, and a console so you can actually deploy. It's more similar to a VPS but with a little more hand-holding and some restrictions.

Is the web ide usable from a iPad browser? That is something that not work in Cloud9

Re: Action.IO: Web Development Server with Full Console, Online IDE and SSH Access

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Josh, thanks for the thoughts. You can use tools like Boxen, Puppet or Chef, but those tools are not useful for less experienced developers or designers who have to run the full stack just to touch the markup. Many developers prefer to write code instead of having to maintain scripts to build development environments. Similarly in production, many developers prefer a PaaS like Heroku or AppFog over dealing with V…

> but those tools are not useful for less experienced developers or designers who have to run the full stack just to touch the markup most of text editors and IDEs have some ftp/ssh capabilities , and most of them are free. If you call yourself a developers and you cant upload a file , you cant call yourself a developer. > Pair programming collaboration (we pair remotely pretty often), as well as sharing and cloning…

> most of text editors and IDEs have some ftp/ssh capabilities , and most of them are free. If you call yourself a developers and you cant upload a file , you cant call yourself a developer.

What does that have to do with local development?

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