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New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by Surio »

darklajid wrote: post #41
dangrossman wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HBO knows it's 2013. It's built a Netflix competitor. They have the whole tech stack for subscription internet streaming running and proven. They're signing 10-year content deals with exclusivity agreements that simultaneously give them a future catalog to rival Netflix while locking Netflix out of acquiring the same top-quality content. HBO has all its ducks in a row, it's playing the long game. All they're waiting…

HBO knows it's 2013. It's built a Netflix competitor. They have the whole tech stack for subscription internet streaming running and proven. I guess (failed to find how I can check it so far) that this is again US only. Of course we're talking about a US anti 'piracy' law, so that kind of makes sense. But the GP still has a point: Making content available, in a reasonable way, would make people like me shell out a go…

>> In Germany everything is dubbed

OT: I've seen a few of these dubbed shows across Europe and Asia. And you know what I found fascinating? Most of these dubbed shows from Europe are done really well. Of particular note is how much pains go in choosing the the dialogues in order to lip-sync with how the original is spoken (Check some HK action films to see the contrast (-;)...

>> who sounds like the most uninteresting guy

In most cases, I noticed they take pains to get similar sounding actors/actresses from the original, perhaps this was one of those occasional poor choices.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by GHFigs »

smtddr wrote: post #94
brown9-2 wrote: post #92

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HBO is willing to sell it to you, you just don't like the price they want to charge.

Incorrect. Sell it to me using a modern medium, I'll buy it. Netflix/HULU/AmzInstant or downloadable files. That's fine. CableTV, No.

I am not a user, but HBO Go does not strike me as any less of a "modern medium" than Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Instant.

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Post by beedogs »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #61
GuiA wrote: post #40

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OP is talking about season 3, how it'll inevitably get pirated, and how there's no alternative.

Sure there's an alternative. Wait a few months until it's available for purchase. Works fine for me.

This works fine if you don't talk to anyone about the show for six months. Otherwise, the conversation goes something along the lines of, "Oh. Yeah, I haven't seen that yet," and you become slightly less worth talking to.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by beedogs »

GHFigs wrote: post #139
smtddr wrote: post #81

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Unacceptable. If my friends/family are watching some awesome show like say, LOST, I'm not waiting for TV companies/netflix/whoever to get their act together. The moment people around me want to discuss the show is the moment I want it and not a second later. I will pirate it if need be. I won't "wait a few months". I'm not here trying to justify piracy either; think whatever you want of me - I'm not waiting, that's a…

If my friends/family are watching some awesome show like say, LOST, I'm not waiting for TV companies/netflix/whoever to get their act together. Lost is among the worst examples you could have chosen. It was one of the first shows available for day-after purchase on iTunes, and from the third season on had free day-after streaming on ABC's own site. And it was literally broadcast over the air for free. So to be clear:…

> If your relationships with your friends and family can't transcend such a trivial incompatibility as having not watched the same television show at exactly the same moment, maybe you should try watching it with them.

Great idea; let's all fly cross-country once a week to watch a TV show. (You really haven't considered the feasibility of your 'solution' very much, have you?)

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by beedogs »

enraged_camel wrote: post #131
smtddr wrote: post #98

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Sure, they can do what they want. But I thought we were sorta discussing piracy. Again, I'm not trying to justify myself. I'm just going to pirate it, end of story. What prevents me from doing that is if they make it available for download or stream before piratebay does. I'm not arguing any point here, I'm just providing one data-point. There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/…

>>There are people like me who want to have fun discussing shows with his friends/family while they're watching it. Not 6+ months later. Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so. Because at the end of the day that's what it comes down to: entitlement.

> Correction: there are people like you who feel ENTITLED to consume every piece of entertainment and will jump through whatever hoops necessary to do so.

You're acting like typing "http://thepiratebay.se into a web browser is somehow a Herculean feat that people are challenged with.

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but it's actually easier than pretty much any other method of media consumption, by a fucking lot.

Also, frankly I'm tired of people using the word "entitlement" in situations where it's really far too strong of a word to be using. I download shit because it's fucking simple to do and because there's literally no other way to consume said content (since, before some imbecile starts throwing accusations around, I don't live in the US.) If there were a way to pay for it that was comparably simple to piracy, I probably would choose to do that some of the time.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by oijaf888 »

GHFigs wrote: post #142
smtddr wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect. Sell it to me using a modern medium, I'll buy it. Netflix/HULU/AmzInstant or downloadable files. That's fine. CableTV, No.

I am not a user, but HBO Go does not strike me as any less of a "modern medium" than Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Instant.

How do you sign up for HBO Go? I can see how to sign up for Netflix, Hulu and Amazon Instant but HBO Go appears to require a few other accounts than just signing up and paying them money.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by corresation »

rohern wrote: post #76
chimi wrote: post #53

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This is a tired argument born out of ignorance. You have no provided no evidence that the pirates would pay for it if they could, nor have you provided any evidence that HBO would make more money selling Game of Thrones to individuals than selling their network to the cable companies as an exclusive option for consuming their content.

I am going to assume that you are an older person who has no real experience with "piracy" because the tone of your comment suggests a misconception about how it works. "Pirates" absolutely will pay. They pay to get the content as soon as it comes out and in high-definition. There are large and influential companies that have come to recognize the piracy is the result of failures of distribution, not pricing. The pri…

The fact that you decided to make this into some sort of young versus old thing is rather hilarious.

Piracy is older than the internet. Some of us don't have the moral flexibility -- or quite honestly the time or the inconvenience -- to pirate. If you do, good for you, but the notion that it's new is utter hubris.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by oijaf888 »

thefreeman wrote: post #122
acabal wrote: post #101

This strikes me as a scary first step. The whole "re-education" spin is extra-scary; if I had a kid who downloaded something and was exposed to this kind of treatment, I'd be pretty loudly wondering who Comcast thinks it is to be "educating" my child with its propaganda. What can we as techies do to combat this? How can we add a layer of encryption and anonymity that's so dead easy that it becomes ubiquitous?

A seedbox is really the way to go. There are definitely a few additional steps you will need to get used to between you and your content, but its definitely worth it for peace of mind. There are also some nice benefits like being able to stream most media on demand rather then waiting for it to download. A couple keys: 1) Get an extension for your browser that will automatically submit .torrent files to your seedbox.…

Why will regular browser downloads not max out your connection? I've downloaded stuff via browser downloads at > 100Mbps without trouble.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by 1337p337 »

goostavos wrote: post #67

I'm not familiar with how that side of things works, how will they differentiate between legitimate torrent traffic, and traffic which contains pirated material? The video says that you'll be able to challenge alerts after you've received them, but is throttling pre or post that alert being filed? Legitimate use from about an hour ago: Downloaded a fan remix album of some video game music (A torrent is the method the…

Agreed; a link that discusses what it actually entails would be great. Or does no one actually know, outside the companies that implemented it?

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by rayiner »

beedogs wrote: post #143
waterlesscloud wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure there's an alternative. Wait a few months until it's available for purchase. Works fine for me.

This works fine if you don't talk to anyone about the show for six months. Otherwise, the conversation goes something along the lines of, "Oh. Yeah, I haven't seen that yet," and you become slightly less worth talking to.

That's the magic of exclusive content, selling something where people don't want a replica. That doesn't justify copying. They made content you want, why should you take it on your terms instead of theirs?
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