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Why Hating Your Shitty Job Only Makes It Worse

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Re: Why Hating Your Shitty Job Only Makes It Worse

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Too many words to express a worn out platitude: "See every day as an opportunity to learn something that you didn't know yesterday".

Here's the only part of the article that I really agree with: "Don't waste your time hating your job and doing it badly." That right there is the real reason why hating your shitty job only makes it worse: because you're wasting your time hating it, instead of looking for a way to either change it or quit.

As for the idea that "at the very least you'll make your days more pleasant with a positive attitude", I wish I could construct and program an army of little robots whose only task would be to kick the people who spout this crap in their shins.

If you subscribe to this "positive thinking will solve all your problems" mantra, I encourage you to watch this RSA Animation of a talk by Barbara Ehrenreich: http://y2u.be/u5um8QWWRvo

Finally, I'd like to answer the last question in the article. Did I enjoy this article? No, I didn't, because it had too much emphasis and I found that very annoying.

Re: Why Hating Your Shitty Job Only Makes It Worse

#13

Too many words to express a worn out platitude: "See every day as an opportunity to learn something that you didn't know yesterday". Here's the only part of the article that I really agree with: "Don't waste your time hating your job and doing it badly." That right there is the real reason why hating your shitty job only makes it worse: because you're wasting your time hating it, instead of looking for a way to eithe…

Ecclesiastes 9:10 is more concise.

Re: Why Hating Your Shitty Job Only Makes It Worse

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post #10

tl;dr - "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade!" I disagree with just about everything in that article and my rejoinder would be "when life gives you lemons, realize that you don't have to accept them. then go and plant a tree for something you prefer and years from now you will be having mangoes, or whatever it is you really wanted." In answer to the question "What’s the greatest lesson that you learned from a j…

Agree, but would add that sometimes the reason you hate the job is in part because there are some other factors. I used to completely deny that my problems with work were anything other than my sucky job. Then I switched jobs, and the problems didn't go away. Here are some things that cause problems that can make a job (good or bad) seem terrible:

* Depression - maybe a parent died, maybe you had someone hurt you (mentally), maybe you just feel like you can't escape your profession but have no idea what else you could do, maybe you can't even find a way to function properly

* Being overweight- even if you aren't obese, some people have more adverse effects than others and doctors will gloss it over saying you are "within normal range"

* Sleep problems- sleep apnea - do the breathe right strips, sleep study, CPAP (greatest chance of working, but didn't work for me), dental appliance, and several made-for-T.V. products that don't work. Axe all caffeine, then you feel like you can't concentrate, etc.

* Attention issues- whether you've got ADD, ADHD, other executive processing or other processing issues, it really sucks. If you feel like you're doing all you can, you can try to just write down the items you need to do that are immediate vs. not, you can add sites you need to ignore to /etc/hosts to point at localhost, etc. but if you have some of these issues, you just aren't going to do what others do. Just switching jobs may put you into an even worse position.

* Past history- some people have really awful family situations. Unfortunately when you grow up in a toxic environment, you may have to work 1000x times harder and may just have to accept that you'll always have that pain and just have to manage it.

So, WTF are you supposed to do? Don't give up. Do try to work on the issues, and looking for another job is good. Try to fix the health stuff. Do what you can to enforce healthy behavior, but don't do diets- you will lose weight maybe even for months, and then you'll be even more overweight. Find some way to exercise that you like and doesn't make you uncomfortable. Hang out with friends and do things that you enjoy, and if you can, try to get better at them. No matter what it is, there is a chance you could make a business out of it, or at least a fun hobby. Just don't hurt yourself or anyone else doing it.

Anyway- I still dislike what I do. But I know eventually things will get better, and I know how to get better. It's just a matter of doing it.

Re: Why Hating Your Shitty Job Only Makes It Worse

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post #10

tl;dr - "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade!" I disagree with just about everything in that article and my rejoinder would be "when life gives you lemons, realize that you don't have to accept them. then go and plant a tree for something you prefer and years from now you will be having mangoes, or whatever it is you really wanted." In answer to the question "What’s the greatest lesson that you learned from a j…

Agree, but would add that sometimes the reason you hate the job is in part because there are some other factors. I used to completely deny that my problems with work were anything other than my sucky job. Then I switched jobs, and the problems didn't go away. Here are some things that cause problems that can make a job (good or bad) seem terrible: * Depression - maybe a parent died, maybe you had someone hurt you (me…

This is good. I apply these to ALL aspects of my life, not just the work place - "something here sucks. what is it? how do I fix it?"

I fixed my sucky job by identifying the main factors, then finding a job that doesn't have those.

I identified issues with my energy levels and concentration and addressed those with sleep/diet/de-stress methods.

Ultimately my problem is - work is unsatisfying. Nobody has a paid job for things that interest and fulfil me. So I need to find a replacement for "something that pays the bills" and that's what I'm working on. Then I get to work on whatever I want, however I want.

I imagine I'm not unique in having that goal.

Re: Why Hating Your Shitty Job Only Makes It Worse

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Actually, I would like to chime in for the side of the platitudes and the article.

Sometimes, people can't quit their job. Its a tough scene, but some people have obligations they can not shake.

Sometimes, enduring and surmounting an annoying job is a test of character. Failing this test of character repeatedly (going from one job you hate to another) probably indicates you need to change your attitude.

Re: Why Hating Your Shitty Job Only Makes It Worse

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post #3

>>>Roses literally grow in shit ... but only if they eat it. That is the best thing I have ever read.

Mushrooms do too.

Being told by your manager, more than once, you are one just sucks when he's dead-on right and enjoying the metaphor.

Imagine that rose having its petals plucked every time it started blooming, used for compost applied years later to cultivate something which looks better than a stripped rose but much worse than a nurtured one.

Re: Why Hating Your Shitty Job Only Makes It Worse

#20
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds a lot like what losers do too...

quit as in quit your job, it doesn't imply giving up here.

If you do as what Seth Godin says, you will end up being a super job hopper who does/adds nothing valuable to anywhere he will ever work.

Because I'm yet to see a job/work place/company that doesn't suck and everybody around in every possible place says so.

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