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New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by thefreeman »

rdl wrote: post #115
dmix wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VPN software, even setting up tunnelbrick on OSX is pretty easy for techies, but I imagine it can be pretty tough for newbs. It'd be nice if there was a one-click type of process. Maybe where the credentials are transferred via web service using a login auth from the desktop client? The technology for anonymity is there and adequate, just needs some proper UX design and user education.

Running a p2p protocol like BitTorrent over a VPN is pretty horribly inefficient. At that point, I'd just use a seedbox and download my final product over https (optionally on a VPN, too)

You don't even need to use https to transfer to from your seedbox to your home. They aren't scanning the content of your transfers. They just have people collecting IP's from public (and probably various private) trackers, which they then distribute to the ISP's.

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Post by thefreeman »

acabal wrote: post #101

This strikes me as a scary first step. The whole "re-education" spin is extra-scary; if I had a kid who downloaded something and was exposed to this kind of treatment, I'd be pretty loudly wondering who Comcast thinks it is to be "educating" my child with its propaganda. What can we as techies do to combat this? How can we add a layer of encryption and anonymity that's so dead easy that it becomes ubiquitous?

A seedbox is really the way to go. There are definitely a few additional steps you will need to get used to between you and your content, but its definitely worth it for peace of mind. There are also some nice benefits like being able to stream most media on demand rather then waiting for it to download.

A couple keys: 1) Get an extension for your browser that will automatically submit .torrent files to your seedbox. 2) Get a good multi threaded download manager for transferring from your seedbox to your pc. Regular browser downloads will not max our your connection. One linux I use aria2c (command line) and for windows, "free download manager" cannot be beaten.

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Post by [deleted] »

aba_sababa wrote: post #114
adventured wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No government? The telcos are government controlled, sponsored, and protected corporations. The entire industry is practically one giant government sponsored monopoly system. We live in an era in which the US Government has the power to directly control every single aspect of the economy. Either directly or indirectly via threats. There are laws on the books to dictate everything and anything, using one agency or ano…

> We have a Hollywood sponsored President wat

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Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by guelo »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #13

Game of Thrones (the most pirated show of last year) comes out in March. Still not for sale at any price unless you have a cable package AND one of their authorised ISPs (plus $18+tax/month). Maybe companies like HBO should update their business practices to something roughly compatible with 2013, instead of trying to legal threat everyone into submission. If they sold it on iTunes, YouTube, or Hulu+ they'd convert t…

Or HBO could follow the business model it thinks it's most profitable. You're not entitled to watch Game of Thrones.

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Post by jasonlotito »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #89
erichocean wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still not for sale at any price It's at Costco for $33.

Sigh. Yes, I can buy last season's shows at Costco. So?

That changes the OP's argument.

"Still not for sale at any price..." which is 100% false.

The problem is, you want it now... because, well, you are entitled to it when and how you want it.

The only issue is you aren't willing to pay the price. So, instead of availability, this because one of pricing. You feel the product costs too much, and you want the lower price to come sooner.

Another problem is you are looking at GoT as the product. It's not. It's a feature of the entire product: HBO.

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Post by w1ntermute »

thefreeman wrote: post #122
acabal wrote: post #101

This strikes me as a scary first step. The whole "re-education" spin is extra-scary; if I had a kid who downloaded something and was exposed to this kind of treatment, I'd be pretty loudly wondering who Comcast thinks it is to be "educating" my child with its propaganda. What can we as techies do to combat this? How can we add a layer of encryption and anonymity that's so dead easy that it becomes ubiquitous?

A seedbox is really the way to go. There are definitely a few additional steps you will need to get used to between you and your content, but its definitely worth it for peace of mind. There are also some nice benefits like being able to stream most media on demand rather then waiting for it to download. A couple keys: 1) Get an extension for your browser that will automatically submit .torrent files to your seedbox.…

You don't need a browser extension if you use the Deluge thin client, and it's a lot more functional.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by SkyMarshal »

acabal wrote: post #101

This strikes me as a scary first step. The whole "re-education" spin is extra-scary; if I had a kid who downloaded something and was exposed to this kind of treatment, I'd be pretty loudly wondering who Comcast thinks it is to be "educating" my child with its propaganda. What can we as techies do to combat this? How can we add a layer of encryption and anonymity that's so dead easy that it becomes ubiquitous?

There's a really thorough post about CAS, and available countermeasures, at reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/evolutionReddit/comments/193m6k/six_...

TLDR: VPN's, I2P, VPS's, Usenet, Retroshare, Alternative ISPs, and spreading awareness of CAS and its countermeasures via active grassroots outreach and communication.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by defrost »

rohern wrote: post #76
chimi wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a tired argument born out of ignorance. You have no provided no evidence that the pirates would pay for it if they could, nor have you provided any evidence that HBO would make more money selling Game of Thrones to individuals than selling their network to the cable companies as an exclusive option for consuming their content.

I am going to assume that you are an older person who has no real experience with "piracy" because the tone of your comment suggests a misconception about how it works. "Pirates" absolutely will pay. They pay to get the content as soon as it comes out and in high-definition. There are large and influential companies that have come to recognize the piracy is the result of failures of distribution, not pricing. The pri…

Rather than running about insulting old people by assuming they have "no real experience with piracy" you might want to change your argument to "old people have a different experience of piracy than the one I am trying to replace".

Last time I checked the backbone of the early release scene was still Usenet - clearly the playground of the hip, young & funky - no old people there.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by yuhong »

dangrossman wrote: post #23
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #13

Game of Thrones (the most pirated show of last year) comes out in March. Still not for sale at any price unless you have a cable package AND one of their authorised ISPs (plus $18+tax/month). Maybe companies like HBO should update their business practices to something roughly compatible with 2013, instead of trying to legal threat everyone into submission. If they sold it on iTunes, YouTube, or Hulu+ they'd convert t…

HBO knows it's 2013. It's built a Netflix competitor. They have the whole tech stack for subscription internet streaming running and proven. They're signing 10-year content deals with exclusivity agreements that simultaneously give them a future catalog to rival Netflix while locking Netflix out of acquiring the same top-quality content. HBO has all its ducks in a row, it's playing the long game. All they're waiting…

I wonder when exactly this will happen.
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