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New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by EGreg »

LOOK MA, NO GOVERNMENT!

With SOPA destroyed by the combined efforts of giant internet companies and internet users calling their congressmen, Hollywood was able to engage another group: ISPs.

Note: this is done completely without government. It is one of the best illustrations to date of what I was saying, about nannies curtailing liberties being possible even if government doesn't do them.

To all libertarians that single out the government for special thrashing, I have a question: doesn't this show that wherever power concentrates, you will find stuff like this. Government is just an example. We always knew they didn't need the government, just all the major ISPs.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by waterlesscloud »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #13

Game of Thrones (the most pirated show of last year) comes out in March. Still not for sale at any price unless you have a cable package AND one of their authorised ISPs (plus $18+tax/month). Maybe companies like HBO should update their business practices to something roughly compatible with 2013, instead of trying to legal threat everyone into submission. If they sold it on iTunes, YouTube, or Hulu+ they'd convert t…

Funny, I've been able to purchase and stream seasons 1 and 2 via Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BHASVQC

Looks like HBO was able to take my money just fine.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by NoPiece »

api wrote: post #16
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #13

Game of Thrones (the most pirated show of last year) comes out in March. Still not for sale at any price unless you have a cable package AND one of their authorised ISPs (plus $18+tax/month). Maybe companies like HBO should update their business practices to something roughly compatible with 2013, instead of trying to legal threat everyone into submission. If they sold it on iTunes, YouTube, or Hulu+ they'd convert t…

The game is protecting cable TV from total disruption by the Internet. Cable is the big cash cow. That's also why there's such a powerful, almost jihad-like effort to keep sports off the net. A lot of sports fans have cable to watch the game.

Right, and it is not just the cable companies that are fighting the disruption. Television networks are now getting a major chunk of their income from cable companies by increasing the carry and retransmission fees. This revenue source has become much more important as ad revenue has declined. So a healthy cable company business is in their interest of the big media companies as well.

http://www.fiercecable.com/story/news-corp-reports-100-incre...

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

#34

Post by nitrogen »

EGreg wrote: post #31

LOOK MA, NO GOVERNMENT! With SOPA destroyed by the combined efforts of giant internet companies and internet users calling their congressmen, Hollywood was able to engage another group: ISPs. Note: this is done completely without government. It is one of the best illustrations to date of what I was saying, about nannies curtailing liberties being possible even if government doesn't do them. To all libertarians that s…

This absolutely was not done with no government, but was created as part of a partnership put together with the direction of the White House.

Also, there's no reason for a libertarian not to oppose concentration of power in anybody's hands, whether it's government or corporations. Let's let this thread focus on the issue at hand instead of derailing it into another fight between different quadrants of the political plane.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by [deleted] »

EGreg wrote: post #31

LOOK MA, NO GOVERNMENT! With SOPA destroyed by the combined efforts of giant internet companies and internet users calling their congressmen, Hollywood was able to engage another group: ISPs. Note: this is done completely without government. It is one of the best illustrations to date of what I was saying, about nannies curtailing liberties being possible even if government doesn't do them. To all libertarians that s…

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Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by Beltiras »

sokrates wrote: post #21

This is the perfect example of a result that arises when people disconnected from the internet think "OK, what can we do against piracy? Wait, piracy is a crime, and the best thing we can do to reduce crime is education. So why not educate users?" Why ISPs are complying with this bullshit is beyond me. The video perfectly demonstrates the sheer ridiculousness of this system. It reminded me of the Portal 2 trailers: h…

Because ISPs are the same corporations as the content owners.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

#38

Post by erichocean »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #13

Game of Thrones (the most pirated show of last year) comes out in March. Still not for sale at any price unless you have a cable package AND one of their authorised ISPs (plus $18+tax/month). Maybe companies like HBO should update their business practices to something roughly compatible with 2013, instead of trying to legal threat everyone into submission. If they sold it on iTunes, YouTube, or Hulu+ they'd convert t…

Still not for sale at any price

It's at Costco for $33.

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

#39

Post by digitalengineer »

Well, here come the Dark Nets: "The RetroShare network allows people to create a private and encrypted file-sharing network. Users add friends by exchanging PGP certificates with people they trust. All the communication is encrypted using OpenSSL and files that are downloaded from strangers always go through a trusted friend.

In other words, it’s a true Darknet and virtually impossible to monitor by outsiders. http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/

Re: New Anti-Piracy System to Hit U.S. Internet Users on Monday

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Post by GuiA »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #32
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #13

Game of Thrones (the most pirated show of last year) comes out in March. Still not for sale at any price unless you have a cable package AND one of their authorised ISPs (plus $18+tax/month). Maybe companies like HBO should update their business practices to something roughly compatible with 2013, instead of trying to legal threat everyone into submission. If they sold it on iTunes, YouTube, or Hulu+ they'd convert t…

Funny, I've been able to purchase and stream seasons 1 and 2 via Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BHASVQC Looks like HBO was able to take my money just fine.

OP is talking about season 3, how it'll inevitably get pirated, and how there's no alternative.
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