Drone ‘Nightmare Scenario’ Now Has A Name: ARGUS
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#2Relax! God's right here! The world is perfectly just.
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#3If this has the ability to track a good fraction of people from home to work in a given metro area, this could be a boon for optimizing traffic/transit resources and urban planning in general. If I were a DoT, I'd want this.
W/re privacy. It's only a few years away from private companies having this tech available. So a bigger concern might be abuse of this information by an unregulated market.
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#4If this has the ability to track a good fraction of people from home to work in a given metro area, this could be a boon for optimizing traffic/transit resources and urban planning in general. If I were a DoT, I'd want this. W/re privacy. It's only a few years away from private companies having this tech available. So a bigger concern might be abuse of this information by an unregulated market.
Interesting point, but how does implementing a technology prevents others from doing the same? I would think if it needs to be regulated then new laws need to be written.
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#5Previous ARGUS discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5129332
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#6I'm trying to keep the Orwellian thoughts out of my head, but this skips a few steps of creepiness for me. Is this even deemed legal/illegal?
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#7I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle. ARGUS uses mobile phone sensors. Cameras are becoming almost "too cheap to meter", and too small to notice. Billions of people now walk around with mobile phone cameras, so chances are you're going to be recorded by someone in public, especially as cameras continue to evolve.
It may be some small consolation that consumer cameras are ground level, and decentralized, where as ARGUS is centralized and easier to regulate, but the way people are sharing more and more of their life stream, it's probably going to be possible for organizations that watch social networks to track people's movements.
I wonder if in some ways, this is a return to a kind of prehistoric small tribal life of everyone knowing where everyone is and what they are doing, and if anonymity and privacy of movement that we cherish is somewhat of a later invention at agriculture, and that modern technology is just increasing the size of our tribe.
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#8If this has the ability to track a good fraction of people from home to work in a given metro area, this could be a boon for optimizing traffic/transit resources and urban planning in general. If I were a DoT, I'd want this. W/re privacy. It's only a few years away from private companies having this tech available. So a bigger concern might be abuse of this information by an unregulated market.
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#9If this has the ability to track a good fraction of people from home to work in a given metro area, this could be a boon for optimizing traffic/transit resources and urban planning in general. If I were a DoT, I'd want this. W/re privacy. It's only a few years away from private companies having this tech available. So a bigger concern might be abuse of this information by an unregulated market.
Interesting point, but how does implementing a technology prevents others from doing the same? I would think if it needs to be regulated then new laws need to be written.
I would compare laws to stifle innovation in this field as effective as laws attempting to prevent SW copyright violation, or as effective as laws aimed at proscribing what you may and may not do on the internet.
Aside from regulation, in this case the FAA could regulate this as their domain, I don't see why others could not. Anyhow, eventually this could improve such that it could be done from satellites. Since there is less regulation there (national and international) it could get a bit tricky.
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#10If this has the ability to track a good fraction of people from home to work in a given metro area, this could be a boon for optimizing traffic/transit resources and urban planning in general. If I were a DoT, I'd want this. W/re privacy. It's only a few years away from private companies having this tech available. So a bigger concern might be abuse of this information by an unregulated market.
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It definitely has lots of possible good uses. It remains to be seen if some of the capabilities get abused and if they do whether people judge that as too high a price for the conveniences, or if they judge it to be, on the whole, worthwhile given the benefits (mostly conjecture till implemented, at this point).
If they could put this along the drug routes (if they can deal with the difficulties of monitoring over water) this could have the potential to strangle superficial (surface) drug routes (now that small subs are gaining popularity with traffickers, maybe this would not matter much). Also could be used to cut down on cross border human trafficking.
Certainly, it would seem, tracking a suspect just became much easier and in the future, cheaper then deploying a whole team of people on the ground staking someone out. Altho, I imagine, they would need to have multiple signals to have more certainty that they know who's who.