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The Serenity of a 5pm Bedtime

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Re: The Serenity of a 5pm Bedtime

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I've noticed the same kind of distraction-free productivity in the wee hours and thought about starting my day at midnight, but usually I have a hard time taking my hands off whatever task is on hand. Consequently, I am usually a night owl who wakes up nearly at noon (I'm a student, as well), and when I actually need to be somewhere in the morning, I power through with a few bags of black tea.

I admit the 5pm bedtime schedule is a lot healthier and syncs with the 9-to-5 work schedule nicely, though.

Re: The Serenity of a 5pm Bedtime

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The author mentions it at the end but this schedule is really only good for the asocial. I submit that unless you truly have a aversion to social interaction, it will get lonely. I know this because I used to work night shifts and pretty much had this schedule. You end up losing the period of socialization which is typically 4-10PM, where people go to dance classes, have dinners with friends, go get drinks etc... and…

I think it works for maker's who take a long term view of returns on social investments. Sacrificing friends of a certain quality today in order to put in the work it takes to make friends with the people one admires, but doesn't currently know, and whom can raise their stock in life, so to speak, has a higher relative return than being present with his college bar crowd. I'm not suggesting friendship should be a business move only, but that one doesn't miss out on all that much by forgoing the maintenance of superficial connections in the present to focus on their goals. Of course not all college age friendships are superficial, and some can last throughout life, but these are the minority, whereas the majority are much more ephemeral.

Re: The Serenity of a 5pm Bedtime

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I've tried this, but find waking up in the darkness hard to get used to. I mean, I can set an alarm and get up, drink some coffee, and pretend I'm now up, but it still feels like weird zombie-time until the sun starts rising to mark it "really" being morning. Whereas when I stay up late the nighttime doesn't feel like that. Could just be familiarity, but seems like the sleep->wake transition happening during darkness…

I really recommend getting a sunrise simulator SAD therapy light, it really made a noticeable difference for me getting up.

Be careful though, I've heard that some (especially cheaper) lights don't filter enough UV light and that they can damage your eyes.

Re: The Serenity of a 5pm Bedtime

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I've tried this, but find waking up in the darkness hard to get used to. I mean, I can set an alarm and get up, drink some coffee, and pretend I'm now up, but it still feels like weird zombie-time until the sun starts rising to mark it "really" being morning. Whereas when I stay up late the nighttime doesn't feel like that. Could just be familiarity, but seems like the sleep->wake transition happening during darkness…

It's much easier than you think. The hardest part isn't the lack of light but getting past the instinct to go back to sleep. This is a habit you can break regardless of your sleep time: when you first notice you are awake, just roll off the bed and do 20 pushups.

I used to have an hour-long train commute to work each day, and I'd sleep as late as possible while still leaving myself enough time to catch my train. So at 5:40am my alarm would go off, and I HAD to get up. There was no snooze.

The commute is long gone but the habit of rolling out of bed immediately never broke. I'm grateful for it. I used to spend half an hour snoozing, groggily working my way out of the bed to start my day. I didn't get a whole lot of extra rest, just wasted half an hour not really sleeping, but not doing anything else either.

Re: The Serenity of a 5pm Bedtime

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Hm, if I just get a dog, the social weakness in the schedule is solved! Walking the dog at 5am in the park sounds really peaceful. 8pm-4am sounds a lot better. Shifting my schedule later a few hours would be a good compromise. I still get up early, but I don't sacrifice that evening.

A dog is the perfect alarm clock :) It does curtail your lifestyle somewhat but so does having a family. We jokingly refer to him as our 'practice run' for having a child.

A family definitely curtails lifestyle more than a dog. I find that in an urban environment, the dog is actually much more constraining when dealing with _society_ (i.e. neglecting that a child requires much more "training" investment). Dogs can't ride public transportation. Dogs aren't welcome in cabs or many stores (esp. food stores). Poor dog behavior at home may mean constant barking, which neighbors will not tolerate. Dog parks are few and far between. etc.

I could survive in the city with a kid and no car. With a dog, I need a car to take him anywhere outside of walking distance.

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