"Scene is clear. Call unfounded. No threat to public safety in #CambMA #MIT" https://twitter.com/CambridgePolice/status/30533598012521267...
Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT
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Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm American. I grew up in a conservative household so I think I understand where they are coming from. My understanding is that many consider the 2nd amendment to allow them to bear arms to protect themselves from their own oppressive government. The idea is that no government can become completely totalitarian without first disarming the population. And if they try, the people can revolt. That may be an incorrect u…
As I said, it was a supposition ;) I can understand having a license to own a gun (My dad owns a hunting rifle, and a handgun that was an inheritance from my grandpa which will possible pass down to me) but I was watching some news a couple weeks ago where they were showing a hearing on the senate (I think) and the people that went to talk there were defending that changing the laws to allow some guns but not others…
Generally, suppression of negative freedoms are argued in terms of "what is the need of the collective to forcibly deny this freedom to citizens" rather than what need the citizen has to use the freedom. What is your exact need for freedom of the press extended to even obscene material? What is your exact need to be allowed to worship even satan? And my favourite: if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.
> but let's be honest, if the government wants to be even more/fully totalitarian, an untrained militia carrying rifles won't stop them.
It's probably not going to help much against a slow slide, but it will make revolutions look a lot different.
Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT
#93Could it be a stunt by a particularly intuitive student to prevent a shooting incident by creating a false alarm, to get everyone to tighten up security, thus reducing the probability of an actual shooter event really happening? Shooters are probably smart enough to pick their targets, and they would be unwise to pick one that's on edge from a recent incident.
Or it could have been someone carrying a pipe which the witness mistook for a gun from a distance. I believe the last time there was a report of a gunfight on campus, the shooters turned out to have Nerf weapons...
My how things have changed so many short years.
Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
>But I still don't understand that how can guns be allowed in such a manner when they don't let you handle a gas cylinder at a public place or a take a metallic fork on an air-plane. "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -Thomas Jefferson You can't fight tyranny in government with metallic forks and ga…
> You can't fight tyranny in government with metallic forks and gas cylinders. or with AR-15's
Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
That obviously depends on the door. Do you really think your home offers physical security?
I think perhaps you misunderstand what locks are for. Locked doors are deterrents. Governments and lock makers do not assume/guarantee that locks are unassailable, they guarantee that they are unassailable for some unit of time . Active shooter situations are usually counted on the order of minutes, and when you're dealing with minutes, locked doors certainly do matter.
You stated that locked doors were a solution to security when they are little more than security theater. They keep out only the people who would passively attempt to enter your home.
Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT
#96http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/active_shooter_poster.pdf
This is a real thing.
Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT
#97I just want to say as an American, I am so fed up with all these gun stories. I understand there is debate about gun control and this and that, but we are having a much larger cultural problem here. The attitude of helping your neighbor or even someone less fortunate is slowly disappearing and being replaced by a fear for protecting what we have, as if someone else is after it. In my mind it's cyclical, if we help th…
"I just want to say as an American, I am so fed up with all these gun stories." Me too. But it won't end soon. Currently every shooting in every city is a candidate for promotion to a national media campaign that is focused on gaining additional restrictions on firearms, especially at the federal level (but also state level: Colorado is at this moment passing new highly-restrictive state firearms laws). Every opportu…
Oh please. Who orchestrated that? The media got together? The government?
There is nothing odd in requiring safety from other people's activities, whether that's their their reckless driving or their gun fetish.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Attorney here, and the "right to feel safe in public" is one I am not aware of.
And for many attorneys in safe, democratic, non-tyrannical Western countries, the "right to bear arms" is not one they are aware of.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guns also save lives. And nations without guns are not violence-free at all. Its a spurious connection, made by lazy thinkers.
Nowhere will ever be violence-free. If guns are not the cause of violence and banning them isn't for the better, why is England a less violent place than America? The gun murder rate in England is 0.1 murders per 100,000 people, in America it's 3.2. The problem America has is not exclusively caused by guns, it's a problem with culture too, but it seems strange to argue that connecting the high presence of guns to the…
Oh god, stop comparing a huge ass country with states with lot of differing laws to a small european country!