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Spotify and Facebook: Is that phishing?

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Re: Spotify and Facebook: Is that phishing?

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post #8

If this type of behavior continues to be tolerated by users, the entire industry will suffer the backlash at some point. A few companies using obfuscated or unclear defaults will make it more likely that the government will bring down heavy legislation on all companies.

Why is everyone jumping to blame Spotify for maliciousness? All I see is that they have a bug where they instantly assume emails = Facebook login. Then they try logging in using that email, and because this user reuses passwords, it works.

It takes two to Tango, but I see incompetence on both sides rather than maliciousness.

Re: Spotify and Facebook: Is that phishing?

#13
post #12
post #8

If this type of behavior continues to be tolerated by users, the entire industry will suffer the backlash at some point. A few companies using obfuscated or unclear defaults will make it more likely that the government will bring down heavy legislation on all companies.

Why is everyone jumping to blame Spotify for maliciousness? All I see is that they have a bug where they instantly assume emails = Facebook login. Then they try logging in using that email, and because this user reuses passwords, it works. It takes two to Tango, but I see incompetence on both sides rather than maliciousness.

I never used the word malicious. I used the word "behavior". Behavior encapsulates incompetence, poor design, maliciousnesses, etc. I don't presume to know what was the behind the implementation...I just don't think it should be tolerated.

Re: Spotify and Facebook: Is that phishing?

#15
post #4

Facebook and Spotify share a number of investors: billionaire Li Ka Shing has a stake in Facebook and Spotify. Yuri Milner’s DST Global, which owns roughly 10% of Facebook, is also in negotiations to buy a stake in Spotify. Facebook’s founding president and Napster founder Sean Parker, sits on the board of Spotify. http://benjamin.sonntag.fr/Moglen-at-Re-Publica-Freedom-of-t...

I don't understand this comment. Many companies share investors, especially at the level of Facebook and Spotify. Are you trying to suggest that a mutual investor somehow has enough product control to strong-arm Facebook and Spotify into this?

I am not suggesting anything. Please listen to Eben's talk: it is much more serious than an "accidentally" entangled account.

Re: Spotify and Facebook: Is that phishing?

#16
post #4

Facebook and Spotify share a number of investors: billionaire Li Ka Shing has a stake in Facebook and Spotify. Yuri Milner’s DST Global, which owns roughly 10% of Facebook, is also in negotiations to buy a stake in Spotify. Facebook’s founding president and Napster founder Sean Parker, sits on the board of Spotify. http://benjamin.sonntag.fr/Moglen-at-Re-Publica-Freedom-of-t...

I don't understand this comment. Many companies share investors, especially at the level of Facebook and Spotify. Are you trying to suggest that a mutual investor somehow has enough product control to strong-arm Facebook and Spotify into this?

I assume the parent post does - and so do I, in at least this particular case. Seeing how closly knit Facebook and Spotify are.

There's not just a shared investor group - there's also a partnership between the two companies. And it's pretty strong, as in; yes, it does seem like they have shared product control or at least great influences on each others product management

Mark Zuckerberg is listed and quoted as one of the references on their sign up page, by the way.

Re: Spotify and Facebook: Is that phishing?

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post #4

Facebook and Spotify share a number of investors: billionaire Li Ka Shing has a stake in Facebook and Spotify. Yuri Milner’s DST Global, which owns roughly 10% of Facebook, is also in negotiations to buy a stake in Spotify. Facebook’s founding president and Napster founder Sean Parker, sits on the board of Spotify. http://benjamin.sonntag.fr/Moglen-at-Re-Publica-Freedom-of-t...

I don't understand this comment. Many companies share investors, especially at the level of Facebook and Spotify. Are you trying to suggest that a mutual investor somehow has enough product control to strong-arm Facebook and Spotify into this?

Are you suggesting that a mutual (or any) investor has no influence whatsoever?

Re: Spotify and Facebook: Is that phishing?

#19
It says quite clearly: "Log in with Facebook or Spotify". That means you can log in using a Facebook account or a Spotify account.

The username field says "Facebook Email or Spotify Username". So when you type an email, you log in using a Facebook account.

It's not that hard to understand. By the way, that account you made on the sign up page is still unused: you logged in using a Facebook account, which is a different account from the one you just registered, so you have two spotify users now - one you signed up w/o Facebook and one you actually logged into.

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