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Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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There are only three meaningful things you can do with a computer with specs like this: development, design, or gaming. And yet ChromeOS can't do any of these things. Perhaps this is a vanity product for the wealthy. But wealthy people are going to just surf the web on an iPad. I really don't get this product.

And who wants to smear fingerprints all over his laptop screen?

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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People are (correctly) pointing out that the consumer/pro value proposition is not really there.

I suspect this is a pure enterprise play for Google. Institutional customers who value the management features of the ChromeBook platform but want to give their employees something nicer than a $300 netbook with a laptop screen.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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> That's $100 more than a 13" MacBook. Some will see that as "So Chromebook is better than a MacBook then? They wouldn't have priced it that high if it wasn't. I want one". Kind of how some expensive wine is sold. Sell it for $15 / bottle and it gets lost on the shelves among others. Put it in a special glass case and sell it for $120 / bottle and surprise people will buy, taste it and think it is really the best one…

I don't know anybody who only bought a Mac because it was expensive. They bought it because it was worth the expense. Chrome OS is an unproven platform that doesn't have nearly the popular support of Apple's products, and it's coming from a company that's still fairly new at both software and hardware design. That's not to say this will be a bad product, but this is certainly a risky marketing strategy. I'd love it t…

Not many people in the tech industry buy Macs because they are expensive, but I'd venture that (like many other trendy products) there are a good number of people who have bought it for the status/trendiness/cost/whatever. Not that it matters really, but it's an odd claim to make that all Mac purchasers were informed consumers. Most consumers are relatively uninformed, regardless of what they're buying, and loads of people buy things for no other reason than that they saw a commercial on TV and can afford it.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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> companies build screens with more code friendly aspect ratios Let's hope Lenovo takes a look at this. I'd love a Thinkpad with a high-res screen, 3:2 display, and of course, the venerable TrackPoint and keyboard. Touchscreen is a nice novelty feature but really isn't required.

I'd rather have 4:3 or even 5:4, but I'll take any steps in the direction of square as positive.

I couldn't agree more. I'm currently on an upgraded Thinkpad T61p with 1680x1050 and I'm reluctant to change it to a newer machine because of the 16:9 screens padded with tall plastic border that are available in most notebooks nowadays.

I really hope that hardware makers will finally realize that the primary reason for buying a notebook is not for watching movies on a 15" screen.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Considering that this is actually competing against the Retina MacBook Pro, it's actually $200 cheaper...

For a much slower CPU and 1/4 the disk, and an OS that has no apps.

Totally agreed - but as has been mentioned elsewhere here, the overwhelming majority of computer owners aren't techies/developers. I definitely wouldn't buy one of these, but if you're basically a web user and you don't want to shell out for the MBP, I could see this being an appealing option I guess.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Thin client, thick client, cloud, local, etc, these are all only relevant to technical people. Focus on use-cases. What does the Pixel let you do that a Macbook Pro does not? Have access to all your documents from anywhere (over internet connections of various levels of unreliability?) No, because you can do all that on a Macbook Pro. Does taking away the ability to do things locally improve the user experience in so…

> Arguably, it improves maintainability and makes the UI easier to use When your entire OS is cloud based, I think you get some synergies - you can reliably sit down at any computer and everything "just works" with all your state exactly how you left when you got up from the previous one. So yes, you could purchase a Mac Pro, but because it's not cloud based from the ground up there are massive gobs of local state su…

> A chromebook has all the physical features of a high end professional laptop, but is 100% cloud based, and thus can be used as a real computer for real tasks.

Except it can't. There is a theoretical possible future in which everyone has 40 mbps unmetered LTE and powerful apps exist in web form, but if anything the trend has been the opposite in recent years (carriers eliminating unlimited data plans, apps moving back to native on tablets and phones).

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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People get by with 16GB iPads just fine, think you're wrong here.

People who "live in the cloud" with a 16GB iPad have very un-demanding needs. They're people like my mom, who take some photos and send some e-mails. They're not going to buy a $1,300 machine to do those things when a $500 iPad does them just fine.

> They're not going to buy a $1,300 machine to do those things when a $500 iPad does them just fine.

I think that this depends almost entirely on how slick it looks and how well it is marketed. Plenty of moms have MBPs that they shelled out the extra $1k+ for to take get on FB and send emails.

I'm not saying that it's _smart_ to do that :) but never underestimate the allure of a well-marketed product.

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2560 x 1700 display is a big deal for devs, but I think I'd find the extra $200 and get a Macbook pro.

On a 13" display, those specs are a gimmick, MAYBE useful for examining professional photos.

Text sharpness on a retina screen is amazing. You know how lots of people turn of anti-aliasing for code because they don't like the blurriness it introduces? Anti-aliasing on a 250 dpi screen looks as sharp as your 1-pixel thick coding fonts at 72 DPI used to.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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I'd rather have 4:3 or even 5:4, but I'll take any steps in the direction of square as positive.

I couldn't agree more. I'm currently on an upgraded Thinkpad T61p with 1680x1050 and I'm reluctant to change it to a newer machine because of the 16:9 screens padded with tall plastic border that are available in most notebooks nowadays. I really hope that hardware makers will finally realize that the primary reason for buying a notebook is not for watching movies on a 15" screen.

Did you know you can put a 14" standard-aspect T61 motherboard in a 15" T60p chassis with a 1600x1200 IPS panel? Did you know that if you want to spend $400 or so, or you're really good at shopping on ebay, you can upgrade that to 2048x1536?

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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There are only three meaningful things you can do with a computer with specs like this: development, design, or gaming. And yet ChromeOS can't do any of these things. Perhaps this is a vanity product for the wealthy. But wealthy people are going to just surf the web on an iPad. I really don't get this product.

Nobody does: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/02/googles-new-touchscre...

Not a single positive comment on the entire front-page, and Ars isn't exactly madly pro-Mac.

I have to admit my feeling of schadenfreude is pretty strong right now...

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