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Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

#141

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If you listen off of the mobile app, it's not p2p. I would recommend that if your phone is right next to your computer

He said he's running Spotify on his MacBook, it's just tethered to a mobile phone.

Hammock is aware of this, he is suggesting that nthj use his iPhone to stream the music instead of his MacBook.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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In terms of this being HackerNews: It is actually a pretty smart and economic idea to use P2P in music streaming clients. When I first heard about this, I was excited. Thumbs up, Spotify! Apart form that, that's really no news, you could read about that for years.

I don't pay a subscription fee to download my music torrent style (without being able to access the files) only to be forced to seed it.

It should be optional. (Not everyone has a very good upstream and unlimited bandwidth.)

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

#146

Do the mobile clients also use P2P?

mobile clients have their own set of bandwidth issues. I play 1 playlist on my phone, it is available locally (all downloaded long ago), and yet spotify has used over 2gb of bandwidth in the last 20 days. There's a huge thread about it on the spotify forums somewhere.

If your phone is low on space to cache your entire Spotify offline library, it will continuously stream/thash for cache space as you play it all.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

#147
post #140

In terms of this being HackerNews: It is actually a pretty smart and economic idea to use P2P in music streaming clients. When I first heard about this, I was excited. Thumbs up, Spotify! Apart form that, that's really no news, you could read about that for years.

I don't pay a subscription fee to download my music torrent style (without being able to access the files) only to be forced to seed it. It should be optional. (Not everyone has a very good upstream and unlimited bandwidth.)

Your subscription fee would have to be a bit higher in order for that to happen.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

#148
I didn't know about this either. I just canceled my unlimited subscription because of it.

(another reason was them updating their TOS, and showing the whole thing instead of showing only what has been updated; thus encouraging people to agree without reading — Not ethical at all)

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

#149

I had to ban Spotify on our office network as the clients don't take into account how many users are on the local net and scale back accordingly. It only took a handful of users to soak up a noticeable amount of upload bandwidth. That and there is an operational security issue with a program that uploads files from the local disk to untrusted peers and encrypts everything such that one cannot tell what it is uploadin…

What sucks is that here at work (I work in corporate information security), we have developers who love to listen to music when they're programming. I support it. I like listening to music too. The problem is, some of them like Spotify. And since Spotify is peer-to-peer (and p2p applications are against the policy), it gets flagged in our security monitoring tool. And when it gets flagged, I have to make that action…

WebRTC is about to make every web browser a P2P app: http://www.webrtc.org/ Are you going to block all those, too, or change the policy?

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to Aaron Swartz.

Aaron Swartz was charged with fraud and unathorized. Not breaking TOS. The idea that breaking TOS could constitute a crime has been shot down by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. http://thefire.org/article/14389.html

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