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Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by jkn »

rayiner wrote: post #123
jkn wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would consider in this calculation that the chromebook comes with 1 terabyte free storage on the cloud for 3 years.

That's basically worthless in a country where people are paying $10 per GB for 4-5 megabit LTE service, or else hopping on Starbucks Wi-Fi access points to get 1-2 megabit service. I can foresee scenarios where that would be useful: when we have unmetered 30-40 megabit wireless service everywhere. But very few people in the U.S. find themselves in that situation.

I don't see that. For most application the typical Wi-Fi access is enough, e.g. for music and movie streaming, working in Google Docs...

Even if it was only working on home Wi-Fi, it would be far from worthless. People pay $200 for a Wi-Fi home NAS. Having your home NAS available anywhere is a nice plus.

Also there is the screen that is higher resolution and multi-touch.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by rayiner »

spankalee wrote: post #101
ConstantineXVI wrote: post #48

That is one beautiful laptop (note that it's not 16:9 either). I feel like we're missing something, there's no way Google would be blind enough to build such a powerful machine (vs existing Chromebooks) that's so limited by the OS. There's either something we aren't being told or Google's jumped entirely off the deep end. (Alternative: there's no way they could do a "Retina" Chromebook for reasonably cheap, but the N…

Discliaimer: I work for Google, but don't know about real strategy decisions about this. I think it's all about establishing more demand for web apps. Already I can do everything I need to in Chrome except for a nice development environment, though Cloud9 is getting closer, and music apps like Logic. Those are quite doable though, especially with the Chrome App APIs, someone just needs to get the ball rolling. The cu…

I can't imagine there are that many people who want to spend $1,300 to use web apps. People use GMail, Google Docs, etc, because they're cheap, not because they're good. That's why the $250 Chromebooks sell any units--because they're cheap. This thing takes the "cheap" aspect out of the equation, which seems like a mind-blowingly stupid decision.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by samolang »

Raphael_Amiard wrote: post #126

Am i the only one seeing this as a high-end computer with : - Linux drivers working out of the box - Amazing screens - Very easy to transform into a full fledged Linux development machine I hope it can fit the bill, certainly looks promising from that perspective ! Anybody has a link to full specs ?

http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebook-pixe...

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by ConstantineXVI »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #115
ConstantineXVI wrote: post #75

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You can't build for NaCl from CrOS, and as it stands you don't have the toolchain (editors, debuggers, shells, etc) one's used to on other platforms. I understand a $400 phone not being able to run it's own toolchain, a $1300 computer less so.

It's much easier to develop on a Chromebook than you probably think. There are many editor choices, there is Web Inspector for debugging, there is an SSH client (in NaCl), there is developer mode, there is Crouton which gives you a Ubuntu chroot without losing the rest of ChromeOS[1]. I don't do NaCl, so I can't speak to how much pain that is, but for web development I find Cloud9, Web Inspector, Secure Shell to be m…

I've got a Chromebook sitting to the right of my keyboard, and routinely use it as an SSH terminal (that and the keyboard is exactly why I have it). Remote is sufficient, but not always desirable (not just offline, latency can get in the way as well); and crouton and such are kludges vs. having a proper *nix environment within CrOS (not to mention losing verified boot, which I see as a plus overall but glad it can be turned off)

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by criley »

stuartmemo wrote: post #131
criley wrote: post #86

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How do you develop on this? I'm used to using Linux, command line, text editors, local installs of the product I'm developing for, virtual machines, etc... Are you simply forced into using ALL websites to actually develop and unable to use anything else? Seems strange to pay $1250+ to develop on a machine that cannot even run or test the code you write.

I use the Secure Shell extension to ssh onto a dev environment and use vim from there. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell/pnhec...

So I have to buy another machine to develop and test my stuff on? What's the point of a powerful laptop if it's just a dumb terminal to connect to my actual development machine?

Why not just buy a $300 super cheap laptop and do the exact same thing? Sure I'll have less resolution on the machine, but seeing as the developing is happening on another machine all together, it seems like the performance would be similar.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by naner »

influx wrote: post #76

I wish Google would come up with a unique design, they have the talent for it, this looks very much like an Apple product to me.

Any thin laptop with a minimal case ends up looking like an Apple laptop. There's not really much they can do...

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by habosa »

habosa wrote: post #44

This is pretty incredible. Not for me, but definitely a great product. I take issue only with the 32GB internal. I know it's a cloud device but it would be nice to be able to store some local videos to watch on that incredible screen. I guess that's what USB 3.0 is for, but still.

Wow, no USB 3.0? That's a huge mistake.

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by NateDad »

The screen is the only thing to like. If it had 256gb drive, 8gb RAM, and an i7, then I'd be a lot more likely to look at it (and install ubuntu on it).

Yes, it has a touch screen... do people actually like touch screens on their laptops? Is that worth such a huge premium for such mediocre hardware otherwise?

Re: The Chromebook Pixel

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Post by elarkin »

rayiner wrote: post #142
Kerrick wrote: post #130

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Chrome has a wonderful SSH client [0], and with a $5/mo Digital Ocean [1] (or other [2]) VPS for all your UNIX work, it's a perfectly capable dev machine. [0]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/secure-shell/pnhec... [1]: https://www.digitalocean.com/ [2]: http://www.lowendbox.com/

So you pay $1,300 to log into a $5/month remote box with 20GB of storage and 512MB of RAM?

Well, you probably would not get this chromebook if you were only going to use SSH. You'd buy the $250 one.
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