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Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by mcculley »

Ao7bei3s wrote: post #78
alpeb wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good solution nowadays is to ban everything that is not work-related and have people just use their cellphones with their own data plans for that.

No, thats just stupid. A good solution would be a guest WLAN that is, for example, on a separate VLAN. There is no reason to force people to use the slow and expensive cellular network -- both your employees and the people who actually need to use the cellular network will thank you. Also, the GP companies no-peer-to-peer-at-all policy seems... not well thought out, even thought it might be a pretty common policy. Th…

The P2P app could make itself more trustworthy. On OS X, it could opt into the App Sandbox such that it could not read files unrelated to what it has downloaded.

If you run fs_usage against Spotify on OS X, you will see that it is reading files in other places than where it downloads to.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by citricsquid »

apawloski wrote: post #68
bbrks wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even at a 128KB/s fixed upload, that is still ~2x as much as my upload speed limit on UK ADSL.

Is that a typical speed limit in the UK?

Not a typical limit but can often be a limitation in certain areas. My parents have ~220kb/s down, 70kb/s up due to poor quality wiring and being far from the exchange. Most UK cities are reasonable, but go out to the smaller areas with only ADSL and it goes to all hell.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by phatboyslim »

puivert wrote: post #87
nthj wrote: post #47

I commonly stream Spotify on my MacBook while tethering via my iPhone at coffee shops. Little did I know I was paying $10/GB to let others listen to music. Thanks, Spotify, thanks.

Internet is peer to peer. If you are a victim of packet beancounters, the onus is on you to filter your traffic and apps to conform.

I disagree. The average user has no time, patience, or knowledge (nor should they) of how firewalls or bandwidth throttling works.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by dewey »

toni wrote: post #39
crazygringo wrote: post #35

What is the best way, under OSX or Windows, to selectively limit upload (or download) speeds per-application ? Is there a way? It would be so nice if something like this were built into the OS, but is there any kind of third-party software which will do that?

on OSX: Little Snitch on Windows: Netlimiter

He's asking for something to "selectively limit upload (or download) speeds per-application?" not how to block an application from communicating at all. (Little Snitch)

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by nthj »

puivert wrote: post #87
nthj wrote: post #47

I commonly stream Spotify on my MacBook while tethering via my iPhone at coffee shops. Little did I know I was paying $10/GB to let others listen to music. Thanks, Spotify, thanks.

Internet is peer to peer. If you are a victim of packet beancounters, the onus is on you to filter your traffic and apps to conform.

I take responsibility for making my software behave the way users expect.

I would expect other developers to do the same.

This "well you should have known about obscure UNIX command X" stuff is both why software still sucks, and why business people make mega bucks while technical people are capped at $120K salaries.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by [deleted] »

bobsy wrote: post #18

I have never liked this about Spotify... So the solutions outlined by Spotify are... 1) Suck it up. Its how the system works. 2) Use the web player. (Seems to be invite-only beta - US Only) 3) Use offline mode. Unlimited members pay for the service and cannot download tracks so not much use to those. Somewhat kills music discovery. Means you cannot use the radio option. Do social options work in offline mode? Not muc…

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Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by csense »

mcculley wrote: post #91
Ao7bei3s wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, thats just stupid. A good solution would be a guest WLAN that is, for example, on a separate VLAN. There is no reason to force people to use the slow and expensive cellular network -- both your employees and the people who actually need to use the cellular network will thank you. Also, the GP companies no-peer-to-peer-at-all policy seems... not well thought out, even thought it might be a pretty common policy. Th…

The P2P app could make itself more trustworthy. On OS X, it could opt into the App Sandbox such that it could not read files unrelated to what it has downloaded. If you run fs_usage against Spotify on OS X, you will see that it is reading files in other places than where it downloads to.

Isn't it the norm on UNIX-like OS'es for things to use tons of dynamic libraries and spew pieces of themselves all over different directories?
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