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Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

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I use xcharts, It's very simple, good looking and based off of D3.js http://tenxer.github.com/xcharts/

they look nice, but do they support tool tips?

4th example demonstrates tooltips: http://tenxer.github.com/xcharts/examples/

Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

#42

The most usable charting solution keeps getting better.

If only it had the most "usable" pricing structure too: http://shop.highsoft.com/highcharts.html One price for a "web page" that's not a "web application" and then pricing per developer? Just ridiculous. Why not add a per CPU surcharge while we're at it?

It didn't seem complicated to me.

You either license a site to use it, license a team of app developers to use it in however many sites you like, or buy an OEM to ship it.

Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

#43
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I'm not sure how to get excited by this. Seems weird that customers had to wait until version 3 to get a bubble chart and some basic animation events (though it seems you are still on your own to figure out the transitions). After using d3, charts built like this just feel so limiting and a bit old fashioned - I think it is a testament to the amazing work that Mike Bostock has done.

As a customer, having few fancy charts isn't that important. But the ease with which allows customizations and the support it provides is more important. D3.js, GoogleCharts, Flotr2, etc. are too complex to customize. When it comes to building a product and not care about how to get your charts done, Highcharts is the best solution.

Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

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There's also Flotr2: http://www.humblesoftware.com/flotr2 and Envisionjs: http://www.humblesoftware.com/envision Which are FOSS.

Google Chart Tools is also quite nice: https://developers.google.com/chart/ Actually, this is a perfect time to ask: I've been trying to find the best FOSS charting tool for a (for-profit) RoR app I'm building. Google-visualr seems to be the easiest to use: https://github.com/winston/google_visualr I made a list of other possibilities here: http://bernardomenez.es/graphing-on-rails Any tips on a good gem/framework to…

Not really a tip from the RoR side of things, but I do have experience with the Google Chart Tools.

Its a decent library, but keep in mind that Google is in control of the source code. I'd personally look for something that uses a library you can host yourself.

Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

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Anyone know what they use to generate their api documentation at http://api.highcharts.com ? I'm guessing it's built from jsdoc-style comments in the source, but haven't come across js docs that look as good as these

I'm not sure either, but decided to ask the question on Programmers.SE: http://programmers.stackexchange.com/q/187915/3270.

Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

#46
post #36

I'm not sure how to get excited by this. Seems weird that customers had to wait until version 3 to get a bubble chart and some basic animation events (though it seems you are still on your own to figure out the transitions). After using d3, charts built like this just feel so limiting and a bit old fashioned - I think it is a testament to the amazing work that Mike Bostock has done.

As a customer, having few fancy charts isn't that important. But the ease with which allows customizations and the support it provides is more important. D3.js, GoogleCharts, Flotr2, etc. are too complex to customize. When it comes to building a product and not care about how to get your charts done, Highcharts is the best solution.

I think this is a common misconception. Once you wrap your head around d3, building charts is just about as easy as figuring out the required configuration for a Highcharts chart (even complex charts are generally only 30 lines of code). If you really don't care how it is done, there are solutions like nvd3.js that have created prepackaged charts. Based on the extremely limited customizations available and poor performance characteristics, along with the pricing model, I don't think I can agree that Highcharts is ever the best solution.

Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a customer, having few fancy charts isn't that important. But the ease with which allows customizations and the support it provides is more important. D3.js, GoogleCharts, Flotr2, etc. are too complex to customize. When it comes to building a product and not care about how to get your charts done, Highcharts is the best solution.

I think this is a common misconception. Once you wrap your head around d3, building charts is just about as easy as figuring out the required configuration for a Highcharts chart (even complex charts are generally only 30 lines of code). If you really don't care how it is done, there are solutions like nvd3.js that have created prepackaged charts. Based on the extremely limited customizations available and poor perfo…

> Once you wrap your head around d3

Key point here. Highcharts' customers are companies and website builders that don't have, get, or take the time to wrap their heads around D3, they just need to chuck a graph or two on their site(s), then move on to the next thing. It's not idealistic, but it's the reality.

I'm personally surprised there's not a lot more commercial JS libraries like Highcharts out there, seems to me there's a big market for those.

Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

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Not to mention that (at least compared to the previous release of HighCharts) D3's performance is just so much better. Graphing tens of thousands of data points causes my browser to freeze up for 10+ seconds at a time with HighCharts, while a D3-based graph visualization of the same data loads in under a second.

It doesn't appear to have gotten much better in this version. I took a peek at the new bubble chart (via their link to a jsFiddle) and it took about 7 seconds to render. I'm drawing similar charts using d3 with 800 data points that render in under 300 ms.

That's 7 seconds waiting for JSFiddle, not Highcharts. In my Chrome browser, Highcharts renders 800 bubbles in under 200 ms: http://jsfiddle.net/highcharts/hAyzq/

Re: Highcharts 3.0 Beta released

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post #36

I'm not sure how to get excited by this. Seems weird that customers had to wait until version 3 to get a bubble chart and some basic animation events (though it seems you are still on your own to figure out the transitions). After using d3, charts built like this just feel so limiting and a bit old fashioned - I think it is a testament to the amazing work that Mike Bostock has done.

The last thing the world needs is more bubble charts. I'd like once to see one in a true scientific paper. Bubble charts are just like dowsing rods. That's why marketers and managers love them. They'll show you whatever you're looking for.
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