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Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by rgrieselhuber »

dguaraglia wrote: post #79
rgrieselhuber wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or use Rdio? I've never been impressed with Spotify. The experience on Rdio has been great for me.

I'll be honest, I tried Rdio and didn't get where the "music discovery" part comes in. In the month I used it I was only suggested completely unrelated, but obviously 'featured' albums (on their "frontpage" so it wasn't even on my face.) All in all, I just didn't find the service that interesting unless you consider the technological angle.

Music discovery does suck on Rdio, granted. I find myself using other services for that. But for daily listening, the experience is much cleaner than Spotify's is, IMO.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by seivan »

nm7 wrote: post #73

If their excuse is that their servers can't handle it then they are jokers. Plenty of services without paying customers handle more bandwidth than Spotify. Why don't they do what Netflix does and use AWS? Forcing paying customers to participate in a p2p network doesn't make any sort of sense.

None of them are as fast as Spotify.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by shanelja »

apawloski wrote: post #68
bbrks wrote: post #24

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Even at a 128KB/s fixed upload, that is still ~2x as much as my upload speed limit on UK ADSL.

Is that a typical speed limit in the UK?

Not really, I am running Virgin Media and get a 60mb/s line for £24.99 / month including a phone, I've clocked it at around 43mb/s download and 4mb/s upload, the upload is still fairly abysmal, but it's enough for home usage.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by seivan »

I think Spotify is an amazing product, and there are research papers on how their system is implemented to give the fastest playback possible. It's incredibly snappy compared to the other alternatives. I remember trying Pandora when it was available here and it wasn't as fast as Spotify was (and still is).

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by Falling3 »

redblacktree wrote: post #63
easy_rider wrote: post #55

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Right. I was just about to say. This is hackers do it. Sniff out the traffic and block really selectively. My concern woud be: Am I violating TOS when i don't share bandwidth?

Good point. You can go to jail for that; it makes you a felon.

Violating terms of service is not a felony. In fact, it's not even a crime; it's a civil matter.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by jbaudanza »

rgrieselhuber wrote: post #74
bobsy wrote: post #18

I have never liked this about Spotify... So the solutions outlined by Spotify are... 1) Suck it up. Its how the system works. 2) Use the web player. (Seems to be invite-only beta - US Only) 3) Use offline mode. Unlimited members pay for the service and cannot download tracks so not much use to those. Somewhat kills music discovery. Means you cannot use the radio option. Do social options work in offline mode? Not muc…

Or use Rdio? I've never been impressed with Spotify. The experience on Rdio has been great for me.

I switched from Spotify to Rdio recently. As someone that likes to hack on music projects, I'm really impressed with the Rdio API. I especially like their integration with Echonest, which gives you a deep "beat-by-beat" analysis of every track on Rdio.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by puivert »

nthj wrote: post #47

I commonly stream Spotify on my MacBook while tethering via my iPhone at coffee shops. Little did I know I was paying $10/GB to let others listen to music. Thanks, Spotify, thanks.

Internet is peer to peer. If you are a victim of packet beancounters, the onus is on you to filter your traffic and apps to conform.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by krakensden »

freehunter wrote: post #32
mcculley wrote: post #28

I had to ban Spotify on our office network as the clients don't take into account how many users are on the local net and scale back accordingly. It only took a handful of users to soak up a noticeable amount of upload bandwidth. That and there is an operational security issue with a program that uploads files from the local disk to untrusted peers and encrypts everything such that one cannot tell what it is uploadin…

What sucks is that here at work (I work in corporate information security), we have developers who love to listen to music when they're programming. I support it. I like listening to music too. The problem is, some of them like Spotify. And since Spotify is peer-to-peer (and p2p applications are against the policy), it gets flagged in our security monitoring tool. And when it gets flagged, I have to make that action…

Since Microsoft bought Skype, I heard they turned off the p2p part.

Re: Why is Spotify chugging upload bandwidth when it is not streaming?

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Post by fatkid »

redblacktree wrote: post #63
easy_rider wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. I was just about to say. This is hackers do it. Sniff out the traffic and block really selectively. My concern woud be: Am I violating TOS when i don't share bandwidth?

Good point. You can go to jail for that; it makes you a felon.

@falling, i think this was a joke. or maybe not, you'll have to check - http://uscode.house.gov/download/title_18.shtml
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