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Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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Post by angry-hacker »

DanBC wrote: post #35
manmal wrote: post #6

That's a serious case of Google-Image-Searchitis. My theory: somebody googled for "settings icon", swore to himself to get proper artwork later, forgot, and there we have it. (Yes, I'm guilty of that too, but I usually don't forget)

What search terms do you use to get this particular icon returned? [settings icon]["settings icon"][free settings icon] etc don't return it.

http://www.iconfinder.com/search/?q=settings

Iconfinder is one the most popular ones around... so probably whoever is "responsible" for it used that kind of search engine.

There it is: http://www.iconfinder.com/icondetails/8844/128/kit_settings_... with author, licence and all the info.

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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Post by bediger4000 »

belorn wrote: post #64
jacquesm wrote: post #49

http://web.archive.org/web/20020808140127im_/http://www.true... On the left hand side of that image you see a little segment that conists of a hand, an eye and an ear. Those stand for interaction, video and audio. TrueTech hired Jonathan Kraij, a talented young designer to make that logo and it was featured in many places, magazines such as wave and many others besides in the late 90's. Not three weeks after one prom…

Interesting. We should give the benefit of the doubt in cases regarding commercial use from copyright infringement. If its a 9 year old who is downloading a song, then she must be aware of copyright law and thus can't be given the same benefit of the doubt. That girl is a pirate. Is it just me who thinks this logic is wrong?

It's not just you. That's an example of "high court" for the rich and well-connected persons, versus "low court" for the vast rabble. Less serious charges, with minor or no penalty in "high court". More serious charges, with large penalties, often with strict sentencing guidelines, for the "low court".

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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Post by Fargren »

rplnt wrote: post #66

I don't think "pirated" is the right word.

Well, "pirated" is probably not the right word for anything less than armed robbery of a boat. But lately it's been used as a synonym of "copyright infringement", so maybe it applies.

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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Post by jacquesm »

belorn wrote: post #64
jacquesm wrote: post #49

http://web.archive.org/web/20020808140127im_/http://www.true... On the left hand side of that image you see a little segment that conists of a hand, an eye and an ear. Those stand for interaction, video and audio. TrueTech hired Jonathan Kraij, a talented young designer to make that logo and it was featured in many places, magazines such as wave and many others besides in the late 90's. Not three weeks after one prom…

Interesting. We should give the benefit of the doubt in cases regarding commercial use from copyright infringement. If its a 9 year old who is downloading a song, then she must be aware of copyright law and thus can't be given the same benefit of the doubt. That girl is a pirate. Is it just me who thinks this logic is wrong?

Of course she should be given the benefit of the doubt too.

See, if you as an outsider want to make sure that all parties are held to the same standard then you should be willing to apply that standard to your worst enemy as well.

Note that I am not in any way defending Sony or their conduct, I just want the same standard that I'd like to apply to downloading music to apply to this instance of possible copyright violation.

Sony is a terrible company and they deserve to go down because of the way they've harassed private individuals, they've lobbied for ridiculous legislation and have done an enormous amount of wrong. And in spite of all that you should still be even handed in dealing with them.

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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Post by asdfaoeu »

belorn wrote: post #64
jacquesm wrote: post #49

http://web.archive.org/web/20020808140127im_/http://www.true... On the left hand side of that image you see a little segment that conists of a hand, an eye and an ear. Those stand for interaction, video and audio. TrueTech hired Jonathan Kraij, a talented young designer to make that logo and it was featured in many places, magazines such as wave and many others besides in the late 90's. Not three weeks after one prom…

Interesting. We should give the benefit of the doubt in cases regarding commercial use from copyright infringement. If its a 9 year old who is downloading a song, then she must be aware of copyright law and thus can't be given the same benefit of the doubt. That girl is a pirate. Is it just me who thinks this logic is wrong?

Really they should have handled this the same way as the other case. Sent a 600€ request (or 6000€) for a donation to KDE and a NDA and possibly a licensing agreement.

It's pretty clear Sony did not intend to do this and most likely just a placeholder image left in by mistake. Who at Sony would think saving 300$ on designing the image outweighs the risk of this.

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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Post by snarfy »

belorn wrote: post #64
jacquesm wrote: post #49

http://web.archive.org/web/20020808140127im_/http://www.true... On the left hand side of that image you see a little segment that conists of a hand, an eye and an ear. Those stand for interaction, video and audio. TrueTech hired Jonathan Kraij, a talented young designer to make that logo and it was featured in many places, magazines such as wave and many others besides in the late 90's. Not three weeks after one prom…

Interesting. We should give the benefit of the doubt in cases regarding commercial use from copyright infringement. If its a 9 year old who is downloading a song, then she must be aware of copyright law and thus can't be given the same benefit of the doubt. That girl is a pirate. Is it just me who thinks this logic is wrong?

Lead by example. Just because Sony is a douche doesn't mean you have to be.

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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Post by bediger4000 »

rplnt wrote: post #66

I don't think "pirated" is the right word.

What would you suggest as the right word?

I mean, theft is theft, right, whether it's 9 songs, more than 3 sentences or an image. And using the image to make money, that compounds the theft, just like getting caught with lockpicks during a burglary.

We have many important, wealthy sources saying that, so you can believe it.

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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Post by masklinn »

jacquesm wrote: post #74
belorn wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. We should give the benefit of the doubt in cases regarding commercial use from copyright infringement. If its a 9 year old who is downloading a song, then she must be aware of copyright law and thus can't be given the same benefit of the doubt. That girl is a pirate. Is it just me who thinks this logic is wrong?

Of course she should be given the benefit of the doubt too. See, if you as an outsider want to make sure that all parties are held to the same standard then you should be willing to apply that standard to your worst enemy as well. Note that I am not in any way defending Sony or their conduct, I just want the same standard that I'd like to apply to downloading music to apply to this instance of possible copyright viol…

> See, if you as an outsider want to make sure that all parties are held to the same standard then you should be willing to apply that standard to your worst enemy as well.

That is a pretty difficult line to uphold when you can have no sway on said worst enemy and he's already been engaging in egregious behavior with no end in sight. Then isn't it just you being the sucker?

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