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Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by droithomme »

javajosh wrote: post #14
droithomme wrote: post #10

It's a bit disturbing and amazing to see so many people here taking the airline's side in this. No wonder things are the way they are - the general public supports it.

Uh, there are like 9 comments right now (12:54am PST) and literally none of them support the airline. What are you talking about?

All the "Well he shouldn't have used the T word" when he explained that he was taking the photos as part of his travel review job.

There were no faults in the way he handled it. The airline was completely to blame, severely inconvenienced him, falsely accused him, and cost him money. Outrageous behavior against any passenger. That he is a 950,000 mile traveler on the airline and often writes articles recommending them to others (at a time when United is well known for being among the worst of the carriers) makes it completely idiotic from a business standpoint as well.

Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by sdoering »

trustfundbaby wrote: post #22
DoubleCluster wrote: post #17

Never ever directly accuse someone of lying. Mostly because it's usually a communication problem where they said it unclear and your heard it wrong. Also because you should always give someone a way out without losing too much face. I would have said something like: Sorry if I gave the impression of not cooperating, but I can assure you I did not and will not take any more pictures this flight. It would mean a lot to…

Sorry if I gave the impression of not cooperating, but I can assure you I did not and will not take any more pictures this flight. It would mean a lot to me if I could stay on the plane ----- feels a bit too servile for me, especially if I felt I didn't do anything wrong in the first place.

Why, if this means, you stay on the plane, you win. But nobody looses his/her face.

So wining, without anyone losing, what is so wrong?

Everything else (and I sadly, really often react that way) is the little child in a sand-pit: "But he started it" kind of argument. Not mature, not civilized, just childish - the way or societies more and more seem to become imho.

Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by Stratoscope »

avel wrote: post #20
Dylan16807 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using the wrong word is an even more disgusting reason to throw someone off.

"Hey guys, come on, don't throw me out. It's not like I said that I have a bomb!"

Or for us old-timers: "I got the bomb box on my Mac. Yeah, it crashed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb_(symbol)#Mac_OS

Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by Mithrandir »

jemfinch wrote: post #30
Mithrandir wrote: post #26

Something similar happened a couple years ago involving photos being taken of employees.[1][2] What struck me as different this time was that neither the FA nor the GS Rep attempted to take the camera away or have the pictures deleted. If this was a security issue, it makes sense that they wouldn't just let him walk off the plane with the photo(s). It's possible that his saying "terrorist" was part of it, or maybe UA…

Even police officers have no right to confiscate equipment or delete pictures[0], and you're proposing that private parties attempt it? Please, be more aware of your civil rights. [0] http://www.aclupa.org/issues/freespeech/kyrwhentakingphotosa...

No, I'm just saying United has done that before, so it seems odd that it didn't happen this time as well. I certainly don't think that it's right.

Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by LatvjuAvs »

evan_ wrote: post #2

Shouldn't have used the T-word.

What would be reason not to discuss something that whole nation is scared shitless?

No talk policy will make everything go away.

This is beyond understanding for me, how can a word ban someone from flight.

In ol' days when you could smoke and drink and have a nice discussion about shit in world... while in airplane.

Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by sdoering »

jemfinch wrote: post #27

Captain: I don't have any, but United will have no trouble finding me. My name is...[removed]. Why do victims protect their aggressors in this way? The captain made a wrongheaded decision, and he should at the very least have his name attached to it.

Because if it did not happen exactly the way the OP wrote it - and he has the ability to prove it, he might get himself in real trouble that way.

I do not know the US law in that case, but in Germany, the captain then could go to court on terms of "wrong accusation" and the OP would have to prove his accusations.

Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by PavlovsCat »

trustfundbaby wrote: post #18
PavlovsCat wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why the hell would you suddenly spout "I am not a terrorist" when no-one has even implied as such. Because if you can't do that, what's even left for terrorists to destroy? And how is lying, claiming he took more pictures, an appropriate response? How can you possibly rationalize this to be the fault of the OP? As a comment to that story points out, that's a big part of how society got to such a low point.

why the hell would you suddenly spout "I am not a terrorist" when no-one has even implied as such ---------------- Why would it freak someone out, when no terrorist (to my knowledge) has ever declared "I'm not a terrorist" ... right before hijacking a plane?

We don't even have an indication it actually did freak them out. To me that's just a speculative justification, giving authority the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by jrockway »

trustfundbaby wrote: post #22
DoubleCluster wrote: post #17

Never ever directly accuse someone of lying. Mostly because it's usually a communication problem where they said it unclear and your heard it wrong. Also because you should always give someone a way out without losing too much face. I would have said something like: Sorry if I gave the impression of not cooperating, but I can assure you I did not and will not take any more pictures this flight. It would mean a lot to…

Sorry if I gave the impression of not cooperating, but I can assure you I did not and will not take any more pictures this flight. It would mean a lot to me if I could stay on the plane ----- feels a bit too servile for me, especially if I felt I didn't do anything wrong in the first place.

feels a bit too servile for me

Is acting submissive to control someone else really being submissive? (No. It's just another tool in the dealing-with-people toolbox. Save your flames for the Internets!)

Re: Thrown Off a United Airlines Flight for Taking Pictures

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Post by raverbashing »

oellegaard wrote: post #29

This is completely unacceptable. You don't take people of a plane for taking pictures - they are no thread to everyone and certainly paid for their ticket. I am flying with United Airlines in March, I hope for a better experience - but after reading this, it might be my last flight with them, ever.

It used to be land of the free, apparently now it's land of the cowards
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