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Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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Re: Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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I know some Mac users who've said they would switch to Linux if there were a TextMate-like editor available. This could be it.

I'd recommend jEdit. It's my editing weapon of choice for OSX, Linux and Windows. By default it's a bit plain, but the plugins available are fantastic: http://taat.pl/en/jedit/ Download it here: http://www.jedit.org/

I'd second that. Used jEdit for years, and thought I'd give TextMate a try... not impressed, so I may switch back to jEdit now.

Re: Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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I know some Mac users who've said they would switch to Linux if there were a TextMate-like editor available. This could be it.

I'd recommend jEdit. It's my editing weapon of choice for OSX, Linux and Windows. By default it's a bit plain, but the plugins available are fantastic: http://taat.pl/en/jedit/ Download it here: http://www.jedit.org/

I tried JEdit like two years ago or so and found it to be an excellent editor, but that the startup time of approx. 10 seconds was unbearable. Have they fixed that yet?

Re: Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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I'm a big fan of textmate, probably my favorite utility on the mac. While things like this and e editor(windows) help, there is still a ton of nice apps only on the mac. As for the Vi and Emacs people, I rather not spend weeks customizing my text editor, I just want something that can color code out of the box and I can get work done.

gedit and kate come to mind, if that's all you desire...

And about ten thousand other editors that use the standard keybindings. The bundle compatibility seems much more interesting as a feature.

Re: Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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I know some Mac users who've said they would switch to Linux if there were a TextMate-like editor available. This could be it.

Ever tried Scribes? http://scribes.sourceforge.net/

It has been around for a while, and I think is the closest thing to TextMate under the Gnome environment.

Re: Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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I don't get why people are building these fancy new editors - You can get both Emacs and Vim to behave Textmate like in many ways. They are both usable everywhere, including in a terminal. No matter which editor you want to use, you have to learn it and it takes time. A few years back I decided between Emacs and Textmate and learned Emacs - the main reason was because I can still use it when I am forced into a termin…

Not everyone is a huge fan of re-learning how to type. Cause that's really how your doing it, with all the chording and such. Some of us are just used to typing in a box and hitting file->save to save. People create new editors cause there is a need to fill.

A standard Emacs install fulfills that requirement nicely.

Re: Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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I've written my own editor too. Would you like to see my .emacs file?

All kiding aside, the most important thing about an editor is an ability to customize it, whether it be via Emacs Lisp, Vim Script, or some other means. No software developer or plugin writer is going to be able to anticipate your needs, instead give yourself the ability to fulfil them.

For example, just recently I wrote up a quick Emacs Lisp function to allow me to toggle between header files and source files for C/C++. I'll add a recursive search (to account for more complex project layouts with /inc and /src) after exams.

http://paste.lisp.org/display/77348

For those that think learning to customize an editor takes too long, learning to program takes even longer. You'll learn how to make your editor do anything you want longer before you become an excellent programmer. Textmate and textmate like editors are great shortcuts, but probably crutches in the long run. That being said, Textmate does anticipates the average programmer's needs suprisignly well out of the box, so in that sense it fills a niche.

Re: Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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I know some Mac users who've said they would switch to Linux if there were a TextMate-like editor available. This could be it.

Ever tried Scribes? http://scribes.sourceforge.net/ It has been around for a while, and I think is the closest thing to TextMate under the Gnome environment.

No Scribes is a unique editor of its own. It shares the snippet system with textmate. But it has a rather radical aproach in reducing on the basics.

Re: Redcar: Textmate-ish programmer’s editor for Gnome with bundles support

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I'd recommend jEdit. It's my editing weapon of choice for OSX, Linux and Windows. By default it's a bit plain, but the plugins available are fantastic: http://taat.pl/en/jedit/ Download it here: http://www.jedit.org/

I tried JEdit like two years ago or so and found it to be an excellent editor, but that the startup time of approx. 10 seconds was unbearable. Have they fixed that yet?

Yes, they created a "JEdit server": http://www.jedit.org/users-guide/starting.html It keeps an instance running so startup time is smaller.

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I know some Mac users who've said they would switch to Linux if there were a TextMate-like editor available. This could be it.

I don't get why people are building these fancy new editors - You can get both Emacs and Vim to behave Textmate like in many ways. They are both usable everywhere, including in a terminal. No matter which editor you want to use, you have to learn it and it takes time. A few years back I decided between Emacs and Textmate and learned Emacs - the main reason was because I can still use it when I am forced into a termin…

But vi (and likely emacs as well) has terrible discoverability. I can modify my gedit or eTextEditor syntax highlighting easily. You could spend an hour learning how to do the same in vi. Hell, to even find 'colorscheme' you'd have to wonder round vimtutor for ages.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why people are building these fancy new editors - You can get both Emacs and Vim to behave Textmate like in many ways. They are both usable everywhere, including in a terminal. No matter which editor you want to use, you have to learn it and it takes time. A few years back I decided between Emacs and Textmate and learned Emacs - the main reason was because I can still use it when I am forced into a termin…

The fact that you listed two be-all end-all text editors suggests that neither of them is the perfect solution for everyone...

OK, good point.

But isn't writing a text editor one of those garden path problems - a near never ending amount of work to get to just what exists already? I guess I also wonder what inspires developers to start new text editor projects too! Perhaps its just dis-satisfaction with what is there already.

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