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A scientifically-minded person realizes that doctors people too, with their own biases, agendas, and misinformation. A scientifically-minded person would seek out research to determine the best course of action.
A person with common sense would look at the mass of a baby, and the mass of an adult human. They'd consider their tendencies to sleep heavily, and perhaps conclude that the adult could easily roll over on the baby, and kill it. Or knock it off the edge of the bed, and kill it. Hell, if you do the research there are plenty instances of people punching their sleeping partner in the face during sleep, because they were…
Good sleep, good learning, good life
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#112I and my wife co-sleep with my daughter that is now almost 4 months old, this worked very well for us, basically she sleeps the whole night, interrupting us just when she needs some milk. However because she is breastfed it is pretty natural because of co-sleeping so my wife just let she start getting the milk and fall asleep again after a few second. Surely it does not work for everybody but when it works it means t…
We researched risks beforehand, and found (no links because this is from memory...) that it would be a bad idea if we used alcohol/sleeping pills/etc., or were obese -- we don't/aren't, and in the 3+ years we've been co-sleeping we've never even bumped a child in the night and upset it.
I know people (and hear about people) who accidentally punch their spouses, sleepwalk, etc. during the night -- if you have a history of that kind of thing, I wouldn't recommend it. If you don't, this is a nice setup. My personal experience is that I'm hyperaware of the baby in the bed even while mostly-asleep (like when changing position during the night), and in the morning have very foggy memories of turning over very carefully.
We generally head to bed gradually starting around 10pm (but I often read the older girl more stories downstairs while my wife gets the baby to sleep first), and the kids wake up anywhere from 8:30 to 10:30 the next morning -- usually later rather than earlier, so I get some work done in a quiet house before they get up.
Side-note: we got a co-sleeping bed (a crib that attaches to the side of the bed, basically) but it quickly became a toychest; the babies didn't want to be set aside. Now we sleep sideways in the bed (headboard/footboard means no one rolls out the "sides") and the grown-ups put their feet in the co-sleeping attachment.
edit: forgot to mention that obesity is a risk factor for co-sleeping.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
We tried this (our daughter is almost 6 months old) but every bloody doctor, nurse, family member etc. that we discussed this with put the every living terror in us about accidentally killing her. The baby slept well, we did not.
There are cots which attach to the side of the bed which give the benefits of co-sleeping without the risk.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
We tried this (our daughter is almost 6 months old) but every bloody doctor, nurse, family member etc. that we discussed this with put the every living terror in us about accidentally killing her. The baby slept well, we did not.
This is normal, family, doctors, and friends are dangerous: * Hey, you no longer have enough milk! Try giving some more integration with artificial milk. * You'll end killing her because of co-sleeping! * Co-sleeping will increase chances of SIDS! * Let her cry, otherwise you'll always carry her in your arms! * And so forth. My advice is: don't listen to them, they tell you this with good intentions, but the reality…
We also had a close shave with the milk thing, but there are also now experts who help with and promote breast feeding. But the "standard docs" are rather quick with "just add artificial food". Even though they should now that it's better for the immune system to be breast fed (there actually is research on that).
Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life
#115I and my wife co-sleep with my daughter that is now almost 4 months old, this worked very well for us, basically she sleeps the whole night, interrupting us just when she needs some milk. However because she is breastfed it is pretty natural because of co-sleeping so my wife just let she start getting the milk and fall asleep again after a few second. Surely it does not work for everybody but when it works it means t…
I suppose it would be difficult with modern beds because I suppose most mothers have some sort of pads on their breast to avoid lactating into the mattress.
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#116I have to wonder though, since I have several "issues" (waking up tired, lower back pain, tense in the shoulders, bruxism, procrastination, ...) in moderate intensity, if I should just "man up".
I'm actually fascinated by this: popular mythology seems to push the "man up" principle for getting things done. But the real challenges I see are longterm sustainability, managing your resources properly to get through long tasks/projects.
Maybe it is because movies lend themselves more to the "man up once and achieve a break through" type of stories than to the "act sensibly and continue for a looong time".
Think learning piano: you can not man up and force yourself to learn piano in a 48h sleepless session (I assume :-)). You have to practice continuously for years. Sticking to it is the really hard part. Maning up for short bursts of time is actually easy.
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#117A bit meta, it's almost 1am in here and I'm reading this. Such an irony.
Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life
#118First of all: I hate sleeping. No, really. Since I was like 9 years old. Sleeping feels good, or more exactly, going to sleep when you're sleepy feels good; but there are so many things to do through the day, that feel much better! Be it reading, studying, watching movies, any kind of game (videogames, board games, sports, you name it), or anything you like. Yeah, I've wished I didn't need to sleep since I was very young. Not too long after, I realized the harsh truth: not getting enough sleep is far worse than "waste" many hours in bed. You feel like shit (especially in the morning, just after artificially waking up), you perform worse on everything you do, and there are a few health issues.
Of course, for most of my life I've been under the same bane than everyone: school and work create artificial constraints to sleeping schedules, so through all my life I've done very unwise things. I remember a period of several months when I slept twice a day from four to eight: once AM, once PM. It's actually a relatively benign schedule compared to other things I've done.
So, I decided to tackle the problem, and now there are several things I do, with good results:
1) The article speaks against this, but try to go to sleep at about the same time everyday. What does this mean? Well, if your "sleeping time" is near but you don't feel tired at all (or you think you won't feel tired because it hasn't been an intense day), you may want to A) turn off as many lights as possible, and yes, this specifically includes computers, TV and phones (by the way, how many of you don't turn off the phone when you go to sleep? Please, don't do that to yourself!); and B) go for a walk and/or moderate exercise for about 30 minutes to tire you a little. Even walking through the rooms of your house might do the trick, actually.
2) In the adjustment phase (the article tells you how to do this; free-running sleep with little to no physical activity during a holiday week does the job for me), try to create a schedule that makes you get up a good 2-3 hours before you have to actually start preparing to go to work. I.e., if you would get up at 7 to immediately have breakfast as fast as possible, then take a shower and go to job with minimal "waste" of time, then schedule your sleep so that you get up at 5 or even a little sooner. This has some benefits like giving you quiet time to do whatever you want before work (I usually study); but more importantly, it ensures completely that, if one day you feel like you need a little more sleep, you can stay in bed as long as you want, and you'll be wide awake and energetic through all the day (however, try to increase your exercise that day, so that you'll feel tired and go to bed as soon as possible, thus not breaking your schedule. I've noted than a single day of not getting enough sleep may wreak havoc in your schedule, so this is actually quite important). This means, however, that you must go to bed soon, i.e.: say good-bye to your night life. I understand that this may put off many people, but at least try to think about this trade-off and which are your priorities. 3) This is my "secret weapon" that may also put off many people: no caffeine. Never in my life have I had any significant intake of caffeine, since I don't like coffee and I don't have coke that often. I'm not sure about how might this affect my schedule, but I'm confident that heavy coffee drinkers will have sleep problems despite their tolerance (they may not acknowledge it, since needing an alarm clock is widely not perceived as a huge sleep problem).
I used to think that I was a non-24. Not any more! I just had a poor schedule and didn't know how to train my body to shorten a little my circadian rhythm (again, the article speaks about this). I also used to think that I was clearly an owl, but I currently sleep from about 20 to 4, and it's by far the most stable schedule I've ever had. It feels so good to be free from the tyranny of the alarm clock.
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#119For those not familiar with Piotr or SuperMemo: it was the first spaced repetition software, based on his research many years ago. An early version of his spaced-repetition algorithm has been released to the wild, and is being used in some form in some free spaced-repetition software such as Mnemosyne and Anki.
SuperMemo is written in Delphi, and the latest version is 15 (released last year -- I was a beta tester). It is notoriously complex, and has a very very steep learning curve. However, you can in fact start using it very quickly if you stick to the basic interface mode (you can change modes from Beginner to Professional). Before I started using it, I'd spent weeks reading the articles @ supermemo.com and I learned a lot (I highly recommend reading his articles). Note: the reason the UI of SM15 is horrendous is because Piotr is the one developing it (he's also a die-hard user), and he doesn't seem to care much about the UI since it seems to do exactly what he needs it to do ;-).
One of the more interesting features that SuperMemo has that other spaced-repetition apps don't is something called "Incremental Reading" (http://supermemo.com/help/read.htm#What_is_incremental_readi...). It lets you import articles (say, from Wikipedia), and read them in chunks, while extracting parts of the articles you want to "remember" further and furhter, this is how it works:
1. You import an article using the import tool.
2. The article comes up every once in a while as part of your spaced-repetition routine. You read a part of it and you may extract a paragraph that you believe contains information that you want to learn/remember. This paragraph gets colored (so you know in the future which ones you've extracted). Once you're bored, you skip the article and move on to the next repetition element.
3. Both the article (as long as you haven't dismissed it) and the bits you have extracted may come up in your daily spaced-reptition routine. This way you get to process the article itself (extracting more chunks, as needed), and work on the extracted chunks until there is no more to extract.
4. Ideally you should be left with a bunch of sentences, as simple as possible which you will probably have to rewrite (he gives tips on how to do it here: http://supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm). At this point you will reformulate sentences into Q & A form. SuperMemo lets you select a word and choose "extract cloze" or something like that, it will automatically add a Q & A item where the question is the sentence with the missing word, and you have to complete it.
I have to be honest, I have used SuperMemo in the past with great success, but now as a busy University student, I really have no time to reformulate knowledge so that it's in proper form, nor do I have time to actually do the repetitions every day as it requires a lot of self-discipline. One more thing that I dislike about SuperMemo is the fact that all data elements are in HTML (it's based on an IE browser control), so it is very limited when it comes to making clozes of mathematical expressions (I get around some of the problems by using TTH [http://hutchinson.belmont.ma.us/tth/]).
Note that they also have another company which releases a product called SuperMemo UX (http://www.supermemo.eu/supermemo_ux) which uses .NET and the SM15 algorithm, but it is not developed by Piotr himself (SM15 is). It looks like UX much less flexible, and probably mostly geared to learning vocabulary using the pre-made packages they sell on their website.
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#120I've struggled with sleep issues since I was a small child; even after doing all the reasonable exercise/caffeine/no-bright-lights things people recommended, my brain sometimes just wouldn't shut down. After some introspection, I came to realize that my body seemed be on a 25 hour day, and it just wanted to stay awake an hour later each time. Then I read gwern's article on melatonin[1], and it changed everything. I d…
Melatonin is a prescription only med in the UK. I haven't asked a doctor for it, and I don't know what their reaction would be. When I've struggled with insomnia I've been given advice about sleep hygiene; then had someone give me help with sleep hygiene; then got a prescription for zopiclone. That was great for me, at that time. (I really needed sleep!!) but unfortunately the care got handed back to my GP and he was…