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Getting started on Firefox OS apps with AngularJS

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Re: Getting started on Firefox OS apps with AngularJS

#4

Stop worrying about Firefox and make apps for Chrome.

See, this is why we have so many problems on the web. People targeting one specific browser and completely ignoring the rest despite it working perfectly fine in all of them if they just stopped to include some other prefixes.

DON'T make apps for chrome. Hell, don't make apps for FirefoxOS either. Make apps for the web. Make them work everywhere, and stop trying to make "one render engine to rule them all" happen, because it's bad for the whole ecosystem.

Re: Getting started on Firefox OS apps with AngularJS

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post #4

Stop worrying about Firefox and make apps for Chrome.

See, this is why we have so many problems on the web. People targeting one specific browser and completely ignoring the rest despite it working perfectly fine in all of them if they just stopped to include some other prefixes. DON'T make apps for chrome. Hell, don't make apps for FirefoxOS either. Make apps for the web. Make them work everywhere, and stop trying to make "one render engine to rule them all" happen, be…

This

As a dev on Firefox OS I had been trying to disuade us from promoting / people from using the 'Building Blocks' ui library, it makes sense for the OS itself to use it but for 3rd parties "I hope this becomes a bygone of separate apps per platform"

I lost that, but I think it will come around as the platform matures, I will always just be building web apps

Re: Getting started on Firefox OS apps with AngularJS

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See, this is why we have so many problems on the web. People targeting one specific browser and completely ignoring the rest despite it working perfectly fine in all of them if they just stopped to include some other prefixes. DON'T make apps for chrome. Hell, don't make apps for FirefoxOS either. Make apps for the web. Make them work everywhere, and stop trying to make "one render engine to rule them all" happen, be…

This As a dev on Firefox OS I had been trying to disuade us from promoting / people from using the 'Building Blocks' ui library, it makes sense for the OS itself to use it but for 3rd parties "I hope this becomes a bygone of separate apps per platform" I lost that, but I think it will come around as the platform matures, I will always just be building web apps

The building blocks however, run as well on Android and iOS, which makes it a UI library that is cross platform, other than a lot of libs out there that currently only target Webkit (hi Sencha!).

Re: Getting started on Firefox OS apps with AngularJS

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post #4

Stop worrying about Firefox and make apps for Chrome.

See, this is why we have so many problems on the web. People targeting one specific browser and completely ignoring the rest despite it working perfectly fine in all of them if they just stopped to include some other prefixes. DON'T make apps for chrome. Hell, don't make apps for FirefoxOS either. Make apps for the web. Make them work everywhere, and stop trying to make "one render engine to rule them all" happen, be…

>See, this is why we have so many problems on the web

Your problem is that browsers are a very restrictive sandbox (so you can't extend stuff yourself, you have to wait for the browser vendors to implement it) and the standards process is glacially slow. People seem to want to use the web as a platform for general purpose software. The current standards are not good enough. So inevitably people look to browser specific features because they want to make stuff that actually works now rather than waiting possibly years for features to be standardised and implemented in every browser. It seems very unrealistic to expect people to cripple their software just to stay 'standards compliant'. History seems to indicate that people will use the available tools to solve their problems. A few purists will shout from the sidelines while everybody else gets on with doing real work.

To put it another way: targeting one browser gives you a competitive advantage because that is where cutting edge and interesting features are, and that isn't going to change any time soon unless there is a big change to the standards process. Hence "Made for Chrome", "Best viewed on Chrome" and soon "Made for FirefoxOS".

Re: Getting started on Firefox OS apps with AngularJS

#8
I tried some FirefoxOS phones for about 20 minutes @ fosdem.

As a developer the idea of native html is tempting. As a normal user I'm rather unimpressed.

"What can this do, that my Android can't?" Without the answer to that question, people won't get it.

Re: Getting started on Firefox OS apps with AngularJS

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I tried some FirefoxOS phones for about 20 minutes @ fosdem. As a developer the idea of native html is tempting. As a normal user I'm rather unimpressed. "What can this do, that my Android can't?" Without the answer to that question, people won't get it.

I've heard both the Firefox and Ubuntu mobile OSs described as developer phones (I believe this was on Click (BBC)).

It made a bit of sense. If you're the type to immediately root your android phone and start running custom builds, then these OSs may give you even more room to run.

Re: Getting started on Firefox OS apps with AngularJS

#10

I tried some FirefoxOS phones for about 20 minutes @ fosdem. As a developer the idea of native html is tempting. As a normal user I'm rather unimpressed. "What can this do, that my Android can't?" Without the answer to that question, people won't get it.

For this (as I share his opinion), read the article from my collegue Sergi Mansilla about the promise of Firefox OS: http://sergimansilla.com/blog/promise-of-ffos/
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