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Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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App developers will be able to use C++ if they like. /ac, speaking on behalf of self, not employer

That's great! You might want to press whoever is in charge of the developer-related pages to make this more clear.

It's made quite clear here: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet/app-ecosystem

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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one glaring flaw: you have to hold it This isn't really a flaw, tablets aren't going to replace computers they are just another computer that is used differently. They are better for reading and passing around. Products like the Surface Pro I think are overselling the form factor.

I'm not sure why Microsoft deserves special criticism here. Why isn't iPad overselling the form factor?

The iPad and its ilk acknowledge the form factor's weaknesses while playing to its strengths: it's portable and tangible for looking at content. Thinner, lighter, longer battery life are consistent with these strengths. Microsoft is going in the opposite direction with Surface Pro: thicker, heavier, and shorter battery life. This direction slightly helps tasks which are a weakness of the form factor (content creation), while undermining tasks which play to the strengths of the form factor.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Usually I would agree. But as long as it's open source and you can install it yourself on any nexus device. Then you can solve that yourself.

That is no excuse. Using that logic why don't you modify android to behave like ubuntu phone does and be done with it? After all android is open source too.

I'm not sure if that sentence means what you think it does. I do think android following a similar route with android for the pc would be a nice move on their part and add a little more competitiveness to the osx/windows/linux wars.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Looking at this (which looks very nice and impressive), the one thing which strikes me is how all the actors in this market seems to want/need a their-platform-only deployment to truly work. Ubuntu on the phone, tablet, PC and TV looks nice. I'd love to try it. But for me to be able to do so, the devices I buy needs to be open enough for me to be able to install that . If all I buy is locked down devices, you can be…

If I understand you correctly, you're wondering if you'll be able to install Ubuntu on all of your devices? I don't think that is the model they are going for, and it really doesn't suit the mass market anyway. As I understand it, they are trying to provide the best experience so that manufacturers decide to use them as the OS platform for their devices. Then you'll just go out and buy Ubuntu devices. You don't actua…

But as a techie I know that's not really needed.

It feels entirely pointless (and environmentally irresponsible) to buy new hardware just to get new software.

It's all software these days so are we not embracing that yet?

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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Heres why this is awesome: - The name Unity finally makes perfect sense - Phone can expand into a tablet can expand into a desktop - larger form factor can run smaller form factor apps - app switcher is slick - Canonical finally learned how to use all the bull shit motivational words that apple uses to inspire people - OS level tie ins to social services - Still open source I'm excited to use it, and I'm excited to h…

Yes, it's great for all the reasons you said and more. But I wouldn't say it's a big win for user rights yet . It might end up even more locked down by carriers and OEM's because it's open source (and of course because Canonical will allow that to happen to gain some market share): http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/19/4005514/ubuntu-phones-2014... Plus, don't forget all the deep Amazon integration, and who knows what el…

Open-source software is open for careers too and for everybody else. That's just the nature of the beast.

For all the complaints about Android, compared with iOS and Windows Phone, it's still the only one with the source-code available, it's still the only one that allows installation of software from third-party sources and it's still the only one that has Cyanogenmod.

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Heres why this is awesome: - The name Unity finally makes perfect sense - Phone can expand into a tablet can expand into a desktop - larger form factor can run smaller form factor apps - app switcher is slick - Canonical finally learned how to use all the bull shit motivational words that apple uses to inspire people - OS level tie ins to social services - Still open source I'm excited to use it, and I'm excited to h…

>Phone can expand into a tablet can expand into a desktop I wonder how this will play out in the light of what KDE's Aaron Seigo has said recently [1]: "Unity currently does not use QML at all; Ubuntu Phone is pure QML. So, no, it is not the same code, it is not the sort of seamless cross-device technology bridge that they are purporting." [1] https://plus.google.com/107555540696571114069/posts/HSL2C21D...

He is talking like you can't run QML apps on desktop. Actually you can and they are developed currently on desktop without any simulator/emulator/real device (I'm volunteering on Ubuntu Phone OS calculator app, as well have some experience writing QML apps for different platforms/devices).

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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2. The apps will remain compatible, just like on Android, but I fear they will give too much control over to carriers. From what I understand they want to give "total branding power" over a device to carriers. So we'll see how they go about that without pissing off the user. If it's subtle enough it might work. But I still hate the idea of giving even more power (again) to the carriers. The carriers should be powerle…

The only way to make carriers powerless is if consumers buy phones unsubsidized. Even Apple makes concessions to carriers.

Which is quite common in Europe.

Re: Ubuntu on tablets

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I still don't get it. This emphasises on "productivity". Tablets, lacking any efficient ways of input are not productivity devices. They are great at consuming content, of course. There is a reason the iPad and the Kindle Fire rules the field.

There are vast portions of the workforce for whom productivity does not depend on getting stuff out of ones brain and into the computer, like it does for us. For lots of people, primarily managers, productivity involves getting stuff out of the computer and into the brain. Touch interfaces are very productive for these kinds of tasks. Typically these people are the ones holding the purse strings, so targeting them is…

Well put, I never thought about it as such.

That said, it looks like Ubuntu lets you drop down into desktop mode with a keyboard + mouse which is something I really like about Windows 8 over Android and iOS.

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